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Jer said:
…and yet I assume you still own a phone and eat chocolate…?
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Not intending to just dunk on you here especially because I think you and Vaenyr are actually having a discussion worth having, but I do think this jab is a bit silly. Vaenyr never said he's against phones or chocolate, just the way they are often produced under capitalism. You've pointed out a lot of fallacies on the board before so I'd hoped you'd be above a tu quoque.
 
Diesel 11 said:
Vaenyr never said he's against phones or chocolate, just the way they are often produced under capitalism.
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Just checking his level of commitment to his principles. It’s actually possible to get phones and chocolate that don’t fall prey to his stated concerns, but you have to pay a premium for them. I should have been more clear about that in how I worded my response, but he still had (and has) an open-ended opportunity to explain his walk vs. his talk.
 
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Trump White House Rages Over 'South Park' Episode, Calls Show 'Fourth-Rate'

The White House is furious at "South Park" after the show's premiere lampooned Donald Trump, depicting him in bed with Satan.
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It's funny that the White House feels compelled to respond to what is said and shown in a tv show that apparently hasn't been relevant for 20 years.

It's almost as if they're desperately trying to stop people from talking about the Epstein files.
 
I think the house is pretty much gone. Perhaps the only bright light for Dems in 2024 is that they minimized house losses and it actually ended up being pretty close with a couple republicans in bluer districts hanging on. Especially with Medicaid cuts and tariff stuff really kicking in by November of next year I don’t see how republicans hold the house.

The senate is a more interesting story and just like it seems to be every year it’s tough because of the map and the GOP’s rural advantage, but doable for democrats. As long as Kemp doesn’t get in (and why would he want the job?) I think Georgia is safe for Dems. I don’t think Republicans will win Michigan in an off year with Trump as president. Maine in an off year seems doable, despite Susan Collins being a formidable candidate. She says she's running but I won't be surprised if she changes her mind, at any rate I think with the right candidate it's possible. Similarly, an open seat in North Carolina makes it much more of a possibility for Democrats, especially if that lunatic who ran for governor gets in. Roy Cooper seems like an obvious choice for the Dems here but even then I would hedge my bets in NC.

Despite all of this, if everything works out for Democrats in the above states and they pull off four victories, they're still only at 50/50 with Vance as a tie breaking vote. It would still be a massive victory and basically pumps the breaks on Trump achieving anything in congress in his last two years, but a lot has to go right for that to work out. After that you're looking at longshots like Iowa and Texas, and if Democrats are winning those the Republicans might want to seriously look at getting on board with impeaching Trump because that means he seriously fucked up.
 
MrKnickerbocker said:
Been a couple days, so I feel like it’s time to remember that Trump is definitely in the Epstein files for being a rapist pedo.
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Way to go Trump voters (and non-American Trump supporters who helped spread the propaganda)! Anyone who votes Republican supports the coverup and protection of Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and any of the pedos and rapists who may be in the Epstein files. I knew a lot of them were nazis but this is a new extreme.
 
Man, imagine if Clinton went down and took Trump with him. Two presidents serving 25-30 years apart implicated in the same pedophile ring would be a wild moment for the history books even for today's wacky standards.
 
They can have Clinton if they take Trump with him.

Actually, scratch that, they can just have Bill, I don't give a shit what happens to Bill Clinton.
 
This is the difference between Republicans and normal people. They seem to think this is some sort of tribal thing where we are protecting our "side" and just trying to get Trump. If Trump released all the Epstein files and was exonerated by them while Clinton/etc were implicated, I would happily admit that I was wrong and also call for consequences for those on the list.

If somehow the Epstein files come out and there are photos that criminally implicate Trump, I doubt we would hear much regret from his supporters.
 
Well we are currently discussing a country where it is an argument whether somebody should be punished or even accused of wrongdoing if they hold office or run for office. The Supreme Court for one seems to think that there shouldn’t be consequences.
 
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