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Azas
No Rest for the Dead
how funny, all you do is trumpet exclusively pro russian agenda.
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Meliegree
Evening The Odds.
Russia is not a peaceful country and that should be enough for everyone. For years, Putin has been talking about returning to the borders of the past, i.e. indirectly suggesting an attack on other countries such as Lithuania.
It is a shame that the US is becoming more and more fraternized with Russia. What needs to happen is the strengthening of Europe, an increase in military spending by all European countries - especially those bordering Russia. Russia has proven that it has no problems with attacking other countries, so the lack of such investments is stupidity. Europe needs pragmatism, the US needs Europe just as Europe needs the US.
The combined economy of European countries is stronger than Russia's, which is why Russia is playing so hard with propaganda to divide the West and convince that the Kremlin does not have imperialist aspirations.
It is a shame that the US is becoming more and more fraternized with Russia. What needs to happen is the strengthening of Europe, an increase in military spending by all European countries - especially those bordering Russia. Russia has proven that it has no problems with attacking other countries, so the lack of such investments is stupidity. Europe needs pragmatism, the US needs Europe just as Europe needs the US.
The combined economy of European countries is stronger than Russia's, which is why Russia is playing so hard with propaganda to divide the West and convince that the Kremlin does not have imperialist aspirations.
Azas
No Rest for the Dead
Opinion exists that Trump acts like does, towards putin, in hopes to make him his aide against China. If so, Trump is beyond naive. russia will not go against China. At first it may pretend, to play along with Trump*, but later, together with China, russia will destroy the west, the global order. Because it's the ultimate russia's and China's goal.
*and when russia will pretend that it agrees to join his crusade against China, putin will demand something in return. Eastern Europe, here we go. And Trump will agree to that without a blink.
Edit: So, as long as Ukraine is undefeated, as long as it resists, putin's hands are tied. Ukraine is buying time for Europe. Ukrainians are literally fighting for Europe and a world based on democratic values.
*and when russia will pretend that it agrees to join his crusade against China, putin will demand something in return. Eastern Europe, here we go. And Trump will agree to that without a blink.
Edit: So, as long as Ukraine is undefeated, as long as it resists, putin's hands are tied. Ukraine is buying time for Europe. Ukrainians are literally fighting for Europe and a world based on democratic values.
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____no5
Free Man
This sounds like propaganda for 5 year olds. Delusional.
ATTENTION: The three politics threads (US Politics, Ukraine, European Politics) have been locked for 24 hours.
These threads, especially this one and the Ukraine thread, have devolved into massive shit shows within the last couple of days, with no hope of any rational discussion or conversation.
I strongly advise everyone involved to take a step back, take some deep breaths and reconsider what it is you're doing here. That's what I did for a few days. If this sort of situation happens again, we will have to ask ourselves if we should even have political threads at all on this Iron Maiden fan forum.
These threads, especially this one and the Ukraine thread, have devolved into massive shit shows within the last couple of days, with no hope of any rational discussion or conversation.
I strongly advise everyone involved to take a step back, take some deep breaths and reconsider what it is you're doing here. That's what I did for a few days. If this sort of situation happens again, we will have to ask ourselves if we should even have political threads at all on this Iron Maiden fan forum.
Yax
Ancient Mariner
Atlanta Fed posts alarming new economic projection of Trump's first quarter
The Atlanta Federal Reserve on Monday produced a new projection that the American economy would shrink by nearly three percent in the first quarter of President Donald Trump's second term.Specifically, the Atlanta Fed now projects that the economy will shrink by 2.8 percent in Q1 2025, which...
www.rawstory.com
... And the economy was previously predicted to grow with like 2.5%, but then the madness started. When you start tariff wars, there are consequences. When you fire federal employees by the numbers, there are consequences. When you cancel contracts and policy, there are consequences.
Edit: Large retailer and consumer product layoffs too.
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Train. Wreck.
Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
But it's a beautiful wreck, gorgeous wreck, some might say the most beautiful wreck in the history of this country. I love that word, "wreck," I just came up with it. Aren't I a genius folks? The folks at Webster's called me to say I'm the smartlyest person they've ever met. And well my mother told me the same thing so it must be true.
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GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
MWGA: Make that Wreck Great Again.
Canadian retaliation for Trump's illegal and stupid tariffs continue:
The sale of Canadian energy into US markets from Ontario to have a 25% export tax appended. This will generate $100 million in revenue for Ontario, which Doug Ford says will be used to support workers impacted by the illegal Trump tariffs. (Doug Ford can't be trusted but he's probably not lying here.) The primary markets for Ontarian energy are NY and Michigan, with a small amount being sold to Minnesota. Ford is pressuring other energy exporters, primarily BC and Quebec, to follow suit. If so, that would impact the Pacific Northwest and New England heavily.
Canadian gas exports which primarily impact Maine, NH, and VT have already gone up 10% due to the Trump tariffs, which directly impacts heating prices in those states. Maine energy prices are primarily driven by the cost of Canadian gas and went haywire for a few days before stabilizing.
This is what Trump wants, I guess. Things to be more expensive in the USA.
The sale of Canadian energy into US markets from Ontario to have a 25% export tax appended. This will generate $100 million in revenue for Ontario, which Doug Ford says will be used to support workers impacted by the illegal Trump tariffs. (Doug Ford can't be trusted but he's probably not lying here.) The primary markets for Ontarian energy are NY and Michigan, with a small amount being sold to Minnesota. Ford is pressuring other energy exporters, primarily BC and Quebec, to follow suit. If so, that would impact the Pacific Northwest and New England heavily.
Canadian gas exports which primarily impact Maine, NH, and VT have already gone up 10% due to the Trump tariffs, which directly impacts heating prices in those states. Maine energy prices are primarily driven by the cost of Canadian gas and went haywire for a few days before stabilizing.
This is what Trump wants, I guess. Things to be more expensive in the USA.
The unorganized mass boycott of American goods in Canada is very real, I can tell you that. You can see people in supermarkets looking to see where something is made and putting back the US goods wherever they can.
That said, if you need something, you gotta get it. Or if they cut prices on some of this stuff and it's a household in need, as well. I'd never shame someone for buying US goods, especially if they're on sale or a household essential. But in general, Canadians are changing their buying habits as best as they can.
And let alone the impact to specific industries in the USA. Canada has pretty much stopped selling US liquor and wine, and we were a major export market for both. Get rid of the tariffs, go back to the Trump-negotiated CUSMA, and all of this stops happening and it's business as usual. Or closer to it, anyway.
Jer
'Til Tomorrow
Unfortunate that out of that list, only Michigan and a fraction of Maine actually contributed to Trump’s election in the electoral college.
Jer
'Til Tomorrow
Fair enough, though it feels more just to target red states where possible.
That’s true, and even the blue states have a ton of Trump voters in them, so you will still impact a lot of people who deserve it. But the entire situation is inherently shitty for all involved.
Yeah, the current counter-tariff plan is specifically targeting red state operations - liquor, oranges and other fruits from Florida/Georgia region, devices primarily manufactured in Ohio and Indiana, and a few luxury goods. It's obviously not a perfect thing, you're going to hit people everywhere, and even in red states people voted for Kamala and common sense.
If Trump lifts his illegal tariffs that violate the trade agreement he signed, that is based on the fiction of drugs and migrants coming into the USA in any level of notable numbers, then our tariffs and responses will stop and I can go buy Kentucky bourbon tomorrow. But given that the President's comments are truly around annexing Canada, well. I doubt it'll stop. So we have to make it clear: Canada isn't for sale.
On a practical level this makes the most sense:
At the same time, a lot of what got us a second Trump term is also voter apathy and a general lack of interest in civics and participatory democracy. That is something that is a nationwide problem, red or blue states.
If people walked away from Trump's first term with the understanding that elections have consequences, we probably wouldn't have had a second Trump term. I think it's important for all Americans to feel the effects of Trump's presidency to ensure it doesn't happen again, even people who voted for Kamala.
Speaking of which, gas prices continue to creep up beyond what they were last year. Thanks Trump voters! On the same topic:
At the same time, a lot of what got us a second Trump term is also voter apathy and a general lack of interest in civics and participatory democracy. That is something that is a nationwide problem, red or blue states.
If people walked away from Trump's first term with the understanding that elections have consequences, we probably wouldn't have had a second Trump term. I think it's important for all Americans to feel the effects of Trump's presidency to ensure it doesn't happen again, even people who voted for Kamala.
Speaking of which, gas prices continue to creep up beyond what they were last year. Thanks Trump voters! On the same topic:
Still waiting for a response to this btw @DJ James. Would love to know where I can go to avoid paying the Trump tax on gas and groceries.
Eggs in my grocery store, as of last weekend, were $4.29 CAD. That's $2.97 a dozen USD. And that's large eggs, store brand. Nothing fancy, just regular eggs.
I'm being told by friends in Ohio that the price of eggs at their local is $5.99 for similar, but they never have any. Uh-oh! Now, I get there's a bird flu, it's just that DOGE fired everyone in charge of containing bird flu and then they can't rehire them all, and the ones who have been rehired, some of them can't work...gee.
I'm being told by friends in Ohio that the price of eggs at their local is $5.99 for similar, but they never have any. Uh-oh! Now, I get there's a bird flu, it's just that DOGE fired everyone in charge of containing bird flu and then they can't rehire them all, and the ones who have been rehired, some of them can't work...gee.