UK Politics

Forostar said:
Right anti-EU-wing continues to be on the rise in several countries. If they can get a majority in parlaments it will be become more and more problematic.

There also seems to be another movement. Left wing/climate/green increases as well in some nations. The marches and protests continue. More collaboration and political will is needed. Hopefully people will vote for parties that think further than for their own short term sake.
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Populism is on the rise in general. Politics are becoming more and more polarized, right-wing and left-wing moving towards the fringes and centrist (centre-left, centre and centre-right) politics losing ground.
 
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I repeat:
Forostar said:
How is May or anyone else going to make people vote for a Brexit deal, when they just voted against this one. Hard to see a big change in numbers, since the deal cannot be made (much) better. Maybe I'm wrong here, but we'll see.
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And how is Brexit probable when the deal will not change, and when it is probable that there a no-deal Brexit will not happen.

How unlikely is another referendum?
How stubborn can you stay, people.
 
If the law is not a good law, when that finally has been found out, it can be changed.

Fuck the law (29 March, my ass), idiots on the BBC who keep denying what just happened, it can be changed.
 
Forostar said:
Fuck the law
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I wasn't aware that you are an anarchist, Foro.

Forostar said:
idiots on the BBC, it can be changed.
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I'm sure the people on the BBC know a lot more about British law and parliamentary procedure than you, an outsider, does. Firstly, Parliament needs to vote in favour in a non-binding motion tomorrow to request an extension to Article 50. Then the PM has to ask the EU and provide a sufficient reason to delay the process. All 27 EU governments must agree to this which is not guaranteed. It's not as easy as you think it is.
 
It'll be interesting to see if anyone in the EU (it only needs one) blocks an extension request. That's possible. If that happpens, May is likely to put her (same) deal back to Parliament for a third time. And, in this scenario, not voting for her deal is basically voting for leaving with no deal on 29th. The only other option would be to force the Government (not sure how) to actually revoke Article 50 unilaterally all together. It's hard to see what's going to happen.

Might be a few more resignations tonight (early tomorrow) too. We'll see if any of the cabinet (big guns) go.
 
I know all about that Black Wizard.

Sorry to be an outsider, but this outsider sees more possibilities than all you stubborn insiders have advocated.

It is not forbidden to choose remain.

And that's, step by step, we're getting closer to: a new referendum. There will not be an exit, even if the law says so, without a deal. I bet something, anything will be done to prevent such a dumb exit. Since I cannot imagine, a better deal will occur, there is a chance that remaining, or giving that option back to the people, is the least terrible outcome.
 
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