Tron's Maiden Countdown - ROTAM and AMOLAD win

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Ive said it before but i tink thats all the controversy outta the way  :innocent:
Everyone here seems to really love POTO and i cant grasp it myself, i must be missing something but i always find it as only an ok song from the debut album. Maybe itll grow on my in years to come. :S
 
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Reading your last two entries  was like falling off a cliff and bouncing all the way down;  Ouch, ooch, ow, oh, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Invaders, Losfer Words and Montsegur are all in my top 20!!  This thing is unraveling and fast!!  Man opinions differ soooo much here!  

  + Flash of the Blade in easily in my top 40. This is amazing.  I do agree with low rankings for' Mother Russia' and 'wasting the listeners  time', err I mean 'wasting love'.  Paul is great on Phantom and please, please don't mention Karaoke Bailey as doing a better job than either Paul or Bruce [or you or me, or the neighbors ailing cat ] again!!  Thanx. lol.
 
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Phantom is around #20 for me, and RT and FOTB are around #50. Very interesting list!
 
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And by the way whoever is giving KICKS  on this thread, you are sad.  Its all about opinion and we all have are own.  I for one have never given out a kick on this sight.  Grow up already. We are all MAIDEN fans and the opinions on which songs are best are cool with me!!  If you are going around "Kicking" your fellow Maiden fans, you should get a life!!
 
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bornless1 said:
Reading your last two entries  was like falling off a cliff and bouncing all the way down;  Ouch, ooch, ow, oh, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Invaders, Losfer Words and Montsegur are all in my top 20!!  This thing is unraveling and fast!!  Man opinions differ soooo much here!  

  + Flash of the Blade in easily in my top 40. This is amazing.  I do agree with low rankings for' Mother Russia' and 'wasting the listeners  time', err I mean 'wasting love'.  Paul is great on Phantom and please, please don't mention Karaoke Bailey as doing a better job than either Paul or Bruce [or you or me, or the neighbors ailing cat ] again!!  Thanx. lol.
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Agree with everything bornless1 said. have a praise, brother! Especially for the Montsegur love... criminally underrated.
 
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The only thing I can say about Phantom of the Opera is what Bruce said: If you don't like this song, then you don't like Iron fucking Maiden.
 
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Well im glad yesterdays gone and may i pray nobody goes back a page  :lol:
#110 - Blood on the Worlds Hands - a bit of a strange intro with the light picking and bass but its leads well into the main rythm when the guitars join in (just unexpected), from here a very powerful bassy sound and one of the songs in which blazes voice goes beautifully with the pace, tone. everything. the story is well developed and a good subject matched to the dark album its on. The pain we cause to others and you could probably guess that without the lyrics. A perfect Blaze song? of course not, because after a long and ok instrumental in (ofc) the middle. Were back with the old trick of repeating patterns for 2minutes and by the end youve had well enough sort of like when you eat something nice, after a whie you lose the taste.

#109 - Rainmaker - i always remember my first reaction to this which was... :blink: erm, blank and shocked. i belive Dance of death was the last album i had a listen of and when this popped up my initial reaction was that it was a bit crazy in its shredding for maiden. After that a began to appreciate its energy and the awesome soloing at 2:00. After that though theres not much to go crazy about really, its very short and punchy but not high table material and so its sunk to mid/low table for being one of my least favourite good dedicated quick punchy single songs. and for not immediately saying maiden to me, i actually thought i clicked the wrong link when i put it on youtube  :ninja:

#108 - The Loneliness of the long Distance Runner - Only really good to listen to... while running and for me only really picks up after 3mins when the emotion comes in possibly as a runner hits 'the wall' push myself on and straight after that truly beautiful solo perfectly moving like a wave of adrenaline and makes me feel like running. Unfortunately im not a fan of the reeeaaaallllyyy looonnnnngggg lyrics with similarly drawn out instrumentals, i know thats the subject but the song but it could be more packed rather than making it seem long for the sake of it. for me thats all that really burns it.

#107 - The Man Who Would be King - And we begin the final frontier :blush: ... anyway ive made my feelings about this fella perfectly clear, it has brilliantly smart building guitar work and flows peacefully with the lyrics as if a hallucination in a dune filled desert which is where i imagine it. The lyrics are the problem and probably not atall aided by the pace but in terms of the story the song ends leaving me with a feeling i really dont know what it was about, also the lyrics seem to be forced to fit and sprawl over various other melodies sounding very unusual. saving graces come at 1:35 and 4:00 in the form of great building guitar work and by far the two (and only) bits i really remember afterwards. Its all good but just soso forgettable and couldve been developed into something truly amazing.

#106 - No Prayer for the Dying - Something about this gets me going for no apparent reason. Ive never grasped the meaning but i  :wub: Bruces voice on it and everything just seems to work in a really sincere manner . the best i can grasp its about wasting life and it does that beautifully, i can imagine being sat in a darkened room contemplating a life gone by and it really sounds genuinely sad and from the heart. Then at 2:22 soloing begins that in my opinion matches the 'subject' in no way atall but for some reason it doesnt bother me as it normally would and i actually really like it  :huh:. Then out god give me the answer ending with a fading cry in some way for help. It doesnt sound good to me technically as a song and is a bit slow and lifeless in the playing except for the solos but the way that matches the lyrics and how they feel, still its only 106th but... wow  :(


Oops nearly forgot Album #13 - Killers
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Another of the later albums i picked up and contains some gems like the title track of course wrathchild and spattered with nice melody but it feels exactly like what i believe it in great part is, a compiled list of offshot songs from the debut. Some are great but in their rush to keep material flowing and the dream alive i dont think they had enough experience to really make Killers count and despite having one of those iconic covers i find it very samey throughout with a fair few songs id label as filler. the instrumentals while being nice bits of music dont excite me to great extent either and i would always pick later work as replacement. averagely it scored 6.74 with me, its ok but obviously not one of my favourites.


LooseCannon said:
The only thing I can say about Phantom of the Opera is what Bruce said: If you don't like this song, then you don't like Iron fucking Maiden.
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:o  i do like it ;) but not as much as 112 other maiden songs and i dont like maiden, i love maiden on higher level than a roof over my head at many points  :blink: Oh plus were near to the 8s
 
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Oh dear, some folks don't like your choices Tron!  :lol:

The best thing about your countdown (& any other countdown) is what you say, rather than the order. Keep up the detailed posting. I've no idea what order I'd rate Maiden's songs, so I can't really criticise; except in regard to one or two  ;). Did you say something about a "high and mad" solo in GoT? Sounds like Janick! I actually quite like this lead section; but, as you suggest, it's a bit mental. If it wasn't for the lead, I'm not sure I'd like the song as much. Rainmaker I'd agree. Something I'm not too fond of with this one. Not too keen on the preceding WD on DoD either. Quite a few Blaze-era tracks up here in the hundreds I notice...
 
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CriedWhenBrucieLeft said:
Oh dear, some folks don't like your choices Tron!  :lol:
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I completely expected as such when i completed my list before starting to post (but a diss from LC was always gunna burn  ;)), i look forward to the top end when i can really get passionate about the song descriptions (I can imagine a good 30lines coming on the number one spot) and right now that top end is swapping around all over the place. I expected it to be Janick and was gunna assume but didnt wanna get it wrong and face insta-banhammer  :lol: i guess a solo like thats a bit hit and miss/ love or hate and we lie on different sides. Wildest Dreams places a little bit higher with me after seeing it live last year and it worked kinda well, seeing a song live almost always bumps it in the ratings  :edmetal:.
With Blaze hes a great singer but with maiden i never felt he had chance to do his thing or to grow into the bands style and fit in properly and the ones in this area are just the ones he managed to do that in, but they always seem to be let down on another field. Plus Blaze songs i really need to be in the mood for whereas others i listen to all the time  :blush:

And as the last sentence of my post suggests where now entering the highly rated songs for me, the 8s being another sizeable lump and negative comments i expect will ebb away slowly into the 50s where itll probably be 99% love
 
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Yeh, he basicaly said you aren't a fucking Maiden fan! Harsh. The chap's only giving you his countdown!  :D
Altho' you might just be a normal Maiden fan...
 
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What! I would have all of these much higher! This is your worst update yet IMO :p Rainmaker and NPFTD just miss out on my top 10.
 
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Yeah, wtf I just realised the two best songs on No Prayer by miles are the two worst here :(
 
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  I would only strongly disagree with Rainmaker at over 100.  I am a sucker for anything off the almighty Dance of Death though.  To me Dance of Death cemented the comeback from the dark years and blew BNW out of the water.  Rainmaker is a Piece of Mind throwback to me and is a top 40-ish Maiden instant classic.
      Blood on the  listeners ears and no prayer are fine where they are.  Lonliness is one of my least favorite on SIT and TMWBK is OK here.  It is a tad underrated on FF but you make great points about it...
 
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2 days in one, i was away from home yesterday and despite my best efforts couldnt connect to the internets. and to try answer all the above posts, i think im counting down :huh: and hooks in you is here :)

#105 - Heaven Can Wait - the worst song on the sbit set for me. again dont like bruces voice as it sounds all furnished with effects without having a brilliant story but still a nice cheery song. the music itself sounds itself covered with some strange manufactured metallic haze like alot of SIT that i dont like. it looks like a very good live track but having not seen it i cant really feel emotional about it. otherwise its a good song with only a couple of downfalls, good energy and very fast with the pace in ways matching fast paced life running from the reaper as is my take on the whole thing.

#104 - Prodigal Son - a lovely melody to start, drums moving across in the back and then the light picking and great bassline. ooh. one song i really like pauls voice, i just cant grasp what exactly hes singing about though but i can tell hes regreting something possibly losing his love and the tone fits perfect with that story. the instrumental midsection goes on far too long because the songs beginning and theme screams short song and giving the repeating pattern it loses attention a bit but hey. a nice peaceful song with contrasting dull depressed themes and beautiful hopeful guitar work.

#103 - Total Eclipse - bring the darkness. a song that i first heard with my purchase of tnotb remaster and what a pleasant surprise. if im right in understanding that this wasnt originally on some releases (europe) then why, it matches the album great in dealing with evil and darkness. this one is almost tribal and not being overtechnical helps it so much and the bass makes it feel very ritual and brilliant in that creative use of the music.

#102 - Sun and Steel - for me a bit of a standard rocker. i remember loving at one point but i think that was because it was the first time id heard that high driving chorus. thats what i find the main draw of this song, its driving music all the way through and contrasting high chorus and lower grittier in the rest of the lyrics. It goes on a bit at the end and the story is basic and not explored a great amount but hey its a great mover and it rides through on that.

#101 - The Alchemist - and oh so soon another entry from our latest frontiers. It felt at first out of place in the album, after the gentle beauty of coming home had ended and i was blown back in shock almost in my own world suddenly came those harsh overenergetic guitars and for me overenergetic is the best term to summarise it. its sounds wrong to me in a similar way to rainmaker as just being so out there and not sounding in those opening moments anything imagineably maiden. for me it goes on the same, the sickly sweet guitar work eliminating the frankly intriguing lyrics that i avoided for quite a while but appreciate more. the lyrics are forced too fast to accomidate the music.

#100 - Strange World - similarly to prodigal son its the debuts song with captivating emotional guitar to introduce us to the song. paul sings it great and i much prefer this side of his voice despite it not being all that metal its bloody nice with that music. this beats its killers counterpart simply because i never get bored and thats due to this midsection having an amazing edgy set of soloing that helps the song to move like a bit of a dream. and this time i dont have a clue what he's talking about though, dreaming?

#99 - Hooks in you - requested above. i dont know what brings this here, i just cant hate this cheeky wee song. i dont know why but in the tone of npftd it completely acceptable to have a laugh with the songs. nothing complex again but pure fun and bruces creepy/cheeky voice suits it great. also the two building instrumentals behind the repeated hooks in you, ive got them... work well (i had to find a nice bit of technical work)

#98 - The Aftermath - i love the marching pace drum work into this song as with an army, and everything matches nicely. Blaze sounds a bit below par i must say but ive come to appreciate what he manages and it doesnt bother me that much. the first section being like a march into war and doubt building that carries on maybe one verse too long. then into the second half being the trauma of war playing its part on a soldier upon returning, for me this is the better part with flowing guitar coming in rather than the rigid paced sound. then emotion release and brilliant soloing after im just a soldier before ending as it begun to drive in an antiwar point

#97 - The Educated Fool - im an educated fool, no common sense atall. thats what drew me to it but that didnt seem to apply much to the song. a very dark song but does it have to be is my question, a song of what i can tell is trying to get out on your own. blaze at 
 
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No huge blasphemies here, except for the fact you place HIY higher than Phantom, Seventh Son, Loneliness, Remember Tomorrow etc. :D
 
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