The philosophy behind Maidens music.
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Habberdasher
Trooper
And the moral of the story, this is what not to do if a bird shits on you.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Well, your own opinion about the lyrics is your own opinion, and that wasn't a mistake. You can always disagree with lyrics. E.g., I can imagine some people might not agree with the lyrics written by McBrain in "The New Frontier".
The thing is: You said your view is Steve's view. That's not a terrible sin or something, but it wasn't correct.
By the way: limited editions rule, you get to know the band (and the songs) a bit better.
The thing is: You said your view is Steve's view. That's not a terrible sin or something, but it wasn't correct.
By the way: limited editions rule, you get to know the band (and the songs) a bit better.
____no5
Free Man
But Foro, don't forget that each song is by itself an independent being -or it should be.
Knowing the maker's opinion that's fine, but yet each song or piece of art has its own life,
once it's delivered from the hand of the Artist.
Yet it does interest me to know what Harris said
Knowing the maker's opinion that's fine, but yet each song or piece of art has its own life,
once it's delivered from the hand of the Artist.
Yet it does interest me to know what Harris said
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____no5
Free Man
Fuck, what a topic, that time was a golden era for the forum, you saw all those (long) posts ?? Great(er) one 
I liked this quote
*of course Jesus is not a prophet in Judaism, but I agree with Mav's approach regarding Abrahamic religions.
And as I mentioned, usually we, the western world, mean those religions when we say 'religion'
No Harris' quote but a fucking awesome reading. If you noticed, all the conversation was Jewish-Christians-Muslims.
Is what I was telling you about how a western see the religion. He'll never think of a Buddhist or an Hindu.
Here something that you should like : Dickinson says that they speak for any religion
I liked this quote
*of course Jesus is not a prophet in Judaism, but I agree with Mav's approach regarding Abrahamic religions.
And as I mentioned, usually we, the western world, mean those religions when we say 'religion'
Maverick said:You can see it like this, but keep in mind that Jesus is a prophet in all of the "big three" (Judaism, Christianism, and Islam), so we can simply consider that the lyrics deal with abrahamic religions, which anyway constitute the beliefs of the majority of the population on the planet.
Oh, and Jesus's message was one of love and tolerance, and he died died for it. He'd be quite cheesed off to see what atrocities have been committed in his name since he ended up on the cross...
No Harris' quote but a fucking awesome reading. If you noticed, all the conversation was Jewish-Christians-Muslims.
Is what I was telling you about how a western see the religion. He'll never think of a Buddhist or an Hindu.
Here something that you should like : Dickinson says that they speak for any religion
gor said:
____no5
Free Man
No they don't really, I agree.
Still they give us the image of the cross. Plus, in the end of the song: Rather a clever lyric -trick
The contradictory is the highest when using Christ, so he put the cross in the end,
to make the impression more touching.
Also this is his culture and his main audience culture.
Well
The good news are that after all this reading, conversation and internal research, I start to like the lyrics more...
Still they give us the image of the cross. Plus, in the end of the song: Rather a clever lyric -trick
The contradictory is the highest when using Christ, so he put the cross in the end,
to make the impression more touching.
Also this is his culture and his main audience culture.
Well
The good news are that after all this reading, conversation and internal research, I start to like the lyrics more...
Reumeren said:
You better not be. That's my job around here.
Quetzalcoatlus said:
Forostar said:
Judaism and Islam don't deny Jesus was crucified. They do deny the second part, about Jesus dying for other's sins. So this is most definitely a reference to Xianity, not all religions.
Now that I've read the rest of the thread ...
The song itself may be about religion in general, but that specific lyric above I have always heard as a Xian reference.
So it's talking about all religions, but pointing one out for more specific attention.
Kind of like how you could write a song about Nazis, but point out Hitler as being worse than the rest.
HELL YES I JUST GODWINNED THE THREAD
79transam
Prowler
I want to see that, and more of interviews with the songwriters.
Hey, remember these are songs and alexander the great is a good example of how they tend to be focused on history, And like Flight of Icarus
tend to focus on lore, we have to remember, it may be just music. What a great debate, I never expected this thread to do what it did.
Hey, remember these are songs and alexander the great is a good example of how they tend to be focused on history, And like Flight of Icarus
As the sun breaks, above the ground,
An old man stands on the hill.
As the ground warms, to the first rays of light,
A birdsong shatters the still.
His eyes are ablaze,
See the madman in his gaze.
Fly, on your way, like an eagle,
Fly as high as the sun.
On your way, like an eagle,
Fly touch the sun.
Now the crowd breaks and a young boy appears,
Looks the old man in the eye
As he spreads his wings and shouts at the crowd,
"In the name of God my father I'll fly!"
His eyes seem so glazed
As he flies on the wings of a dream,
Now he knows his father betrayed
Now his wings turn to ashes, to ashes his grave.
Fly, on your way, like an eagle,
Fly as high as the sun.
On your way, like an eagle,
Fly touch the sun.
Fly, on your way, like an eagle,
Fly as high as the sun,
On your way, like an eagle.
Fly as high as the sun,
On your way, like an eagle.
Fly touch the sun,
On your way, like an eagle.
Flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Fly as high as the sun!
Aaaaaa!
An old man stands on the hill.
As the ground warms, to the first rays of light,
A birdsong shatters the still.
His eyes are ablaze,
See the madman in his gaze.
Fly, on your way, like an eagle,
Fly as high as the sun.
On your way, like an eagle,
Fly touch the sun.
Now the crowd breaks and a young boy appears,
Looks the old man in the eye
As he spreads his wings and shouts at the crowd,
"In the name of God my father I'll fly!"
His eyes seem so glazed
As he flies on the wings of a dream,
Now he knows his father betrayed
Now his wings turn to ashes, to ashes his grave.
Fly, on your way, like an eagle,
Fly as high as the sun.
On your way, like an eagle,
Fly touch the sun.
Fly, on your way, like an eagle,
Fly as high as the sun,
On your way, like an eagle.
Fly as high as the sun,
On your way, like an eagle.
Fly touch the sun,
On your way, like an eagle.
Flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Fly as high as the sun!
Aaaaaa!
What a great debate, I never expected this thread to do what it did.