The Marvel Thread (Spoilers, and language!)

Exactly. And those characters dont need identities anyway. Cap doesn't really have a personal life outside of Avenging. Characters like Murdock and Peter Parker have careers, friends, and families to worry about.

Which is why I hope they continue this with Spiderman and dont reveal his identity in Civil War. I didn't see the Amazing Spiderman movies but I felt like the secret identity was almost meaningless in the Raimi movies. People were constantly figuring out who he was. I understand it is sort of that way in the comics, but there are larger arcs and more characters to work with than in a movie.
 
LooseCannon said:
True. Thor is Thor (his secret identity became Natalie Portman's ex), Cap is Cap (he can be recognized on the street by random former military service members). Vision is Vision, etc.
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True in the comics as well, although most characters had secret identities in the 60s. Thor was Dr. Donald Blake for years and Tony Stark claimed Iron Man was his bodyguard. But Marvel jettisoned secret identities long ago unless, like Daredevil, the character really calls for it. They even experimented with making "Peter Parker = Spidey" public, but that didn't go well at all.
 
Mosh said:
the secret identity was almost meaningless in the Raimi movies. People were constantly figuring out who he was. I understand it is sort of that way in the comics
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Actually not. Nowadays*, Parker is very good and careful at being secret. He's been doing it over half his life. And in the past, they've explained it as the stupidity of others. Back in the 60s (when Parker was still in high school, Marvel time) JJJ actually unmasked Spidey once, found Parker, and didn't believe that idiot teenager was the real thing.

Most of the time in the comics, you can count the people who know Peter's secret on one hand - excepting the superhero community, where many know.

*Disclaimer: I'm not caught up on current comics, I'm about 6 months behind, and there's been some major events. For all I know Parker is public again.
 
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Caught up on Marvel stuff now. First, the craptastic: I actually sat through the entire Fantastic Four movie. It's worse than words can describe. The only bright spot was the kid who played Reed Richards. At times he actually captured the spirit of Reed (but not enough). Also, his stretching effects were the best part of the movie; they actually got Mr. Fantastic in combat right. In every other way, this movie ranged from bad to indigestible. I've read the comics story this movie was based on (the opening of the Ultimate Fantastic Four series) and it still barely made sense to me. I can't imagine what non-FF fans would make of it.

Jessica Jones: that had a lot of twists and turns. My reactions:
a. Trinity is still a badass.
b. Ralph Fiennes was a great villain.
c. What happened to the Nicolas Cage supercop?
d. Patsy Walker was awesome. Nice to see Christie Brinkley in a Marvel movie.
e. Once Robin gets over her grief, we need to see her and Luis from Ant-Man together. That conversation would melt minds.
 
I'm so hyped for Civil War. Ever since AoU and CW were announced, I was more hyped for CW. Mostly because with AoU... they are fighting a single villain and you know they're going to beat him in the end, so there were no twists, like in, say, Winter Soldier movie. (Still loved the movie though, unlike a lot of people it seems :() Civil War on the other hand can go anywhere since they are fighting amongst each other. Trailer is amazing and they didn't even have to reveal
Spider-Man, Ant-Man, Vision, Martin Freeman's character, Baron Zemo
etc.
 
I feel the same way. I wasn't too excited for Age of Ultron since I didn't care for the first Avengers movie as much as everyone else did, but I was hyped for Civil War as soon as they announced it (that said I liked AoU a lot and it's probably in my Marvel top 5). If done right, this could be the best Marvel movie.
 
That's my top 3 too. I have a hard time comparing GOTG to the rest of them though, it's closer to Star Wars than the other superhero movies IMO.
 
Crimson Idol said:
Looking about, I don't know whether they kept it in the MCU, but wiki says:


That was something that I found odd with the Avengers actually. I like that Hulk had some character development and was shown as a hero by will rather than by accident or anything... but when he initially transforms on the hellicarrier he is somewhat angry and attacks anything he can (Romanov, Thor, the Jet) without any concern, then begins to take instructions (even simple ones "Smash") from 'Cap and clearly knows which side he's fighting for as he doesn't attack any civilians or other members of the team outside of a punch to Thor.
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The reason the Hulk was so out of control in the Helicarrier I think is because Loki was there influencing not just him, but all of them. For an example, look at the scene in the lab where they are all arguing and Banner (unknowingly) grabs Loki's septer. Also, in the Avengers#1 comic, Loki influences the Hulk to go on a rampage which brings together the Avengers for the first time.
Remember, Romanov said Loki WANTS Banner to change so the Hulk can destroy the carrier and kill them all.
 
2019 will be the year when Marvel and DC finally go head to head in the box office:

March - Marvel releases Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers version)
April - DC releases Shazam! (who's character is called Captain Marvel)
May- Marvel releases Avengers Infinity War II
June - DC releases Justice League II
 
I saw Deadpool. It was fantastic.

Definitely the most quotable of all the Marvel movies to date. Deadpool's ability to break the fourth wall was very much on show. It was not subtle. The movie was crass and vulgar, showing Deadpool's scarred penis along with quite a full fully nude strippers (not in the same scene). Deadpool himself was perfectly played by Ryan Reynolds, who constantly pokes fun at the Marvel world as well as himself. "If you're going to make me a superhero, promise me I won't wear a green, computer-animated suit!" "Which Professor? McAvoy or Stewart? I can't keep these timelines straight!"

Sidenote: I saw children there at the viewing. Which means I likely saw a seven year old kid witness his very first vagina glimpse. Good parenting, parents.

The story is actually fairly standard Marvel fare, just with more interesting characters and a far more raunchy standing, but told in an incredibly funny manner. I definitely recommend this movie, as long as you keep in mind that it is going to be violent, filthy, and rude. In every way.
 
LooseCannon said:
I saw Deadpool. It was fantastic.

Definitely the most quotable of all the Marvel movies to date. Deadpool's ability to break the fourth wall was very much on show. It was not subtle. The movie was crass and vulgar, showing Deadpool's scarred penis along with quite a full fully nude strippers (not in the same scene). Deadpool himself was perfectly played by Ryan Reynolds, who constantly pokes fun at the Marvel world as well as himself. "If you're going to make me a superhero, promise me I won't wear a green, computer-animated suit!" "Which Professor? McAvoy or Stewart? I can't keep these timelines straight!"

Sidenote: I saw children there at the viewing. Which means I likely saw a seven year old kid witness his very first vagina glimpse. Good parenting, parents.

The story is actually fairly standard Marvel fare, just with more interesting characters and a far more raunchy standing, but told in an incredibly funny manner. I definitely recommend this movie, as long as you keep in mind that it is going to be violent, filthy, and rude. In every way.
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I saw it tonight. Amazing movie, the best one that Fox made (yes, beats Days of a Future Past).
The plot is simple, not a single twist, but Deadpool is one of the best characters ever portayed in the big screen. I missed that dark humour in the Marvel/DC movies
 
Deadpool - huge props for doing justice to the character, but as a film I found it pretty average. 10s that some reviewers gave it are utter crazy talk... OK, it's funny but besides good jokes there are forced or weak ones too. Story is meh, but acceptable for action/comedy I guess. You can also tell the budget was low, visually the film is rather bland (at least in my opinion). But as I mentioned before - the character itself is amazing and it's fun to watch him. All in all I'm very glad that it's doing great at box office - maybe it's going to open doors for other brave concepts to enter the big screen. I'm definitely interested in Deadpool 2.
 
So I finally finished Jessica Jones the other night. I'd give it a 7/10 compared to Daredevils 10/10. Action sequences weren't as good (although I liked that it was more plot/character driven) and the season felt a bit dragged out. Could've been a better 10 ep series IMO. Finale felt anticlimactic too.B

But aside from that I loved it. Great performances all around, especially Tennant's Kilgrave, and the story had lots of interesting twists and turns.
 
Action scenes weren't as good because Daredevil has to give it his all to beat his opponents, whereas Jessica and Luke restrain themselves most of the time because they have super strength.
 
Yes, which made those action scenes boring for me. Best fight scene imo was Patsy vs the cop.
 
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