THE BOOK OF SOULS: LIVE CHAPTER - New Live Album! - November 17th

Perun said:
What reason is that?
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DVDs do not sell. Basically the same reason why Rod and Steve decided to stop releasing singles. :rolleyes:

Funnily enough, he mentions that vinyl albums are released for the collectors. Come on Steve, I'd rather collect singles or DVDs than spend my money on overpriced Ed-Phones!
 
GhostofCain said:
DVDs do not sell. Basically the same reason why Rod and Steve decided to stop releasing singles. :rolleyes:

Funnily enough, he mentions that vinyl albums are released for the collectors. Come on Steve, I'd rather collect singles or DVDs than spend my money on overpriced Ed-Phones!
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That's what I expected. I wonder if this means we'll get some digital re-releases though.
 
GhostofCain said:
DVDs do not sell. Basically the same reason why Rod and Steve decided to stop releasing singles. :rolleyes:

Funnily enough, he mentions that vinyl albums are released for the collectors. Come on Steve, I'd rather collect singles or DVDs than spend my money on overpriced Ed-Phones!
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I’d definitely purchase singles, particularly if they had interesting b-sides, particularly covers but also live tracks. I don’t see how they can’t work out the demand for a single and press up enough to satisfy this. Might not sell as much as the old days, but surely enough to cover costs and make some sort of profit and add something worthwhile to your catalogue of work.
 
Vantage Point said:
I’d definitely purchase singles, particularly if they had interesting b-sides, particularly covers but also live tracks. I don’t see how they can’t work out the demand for a single and press up enough to satisfy this. Might not sell as much as the old days, but surely enough to cover costs and make some sort of profit and add something worthwhile to your catalogue of work.
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Exactly my thoughts, which is also the reason why I think Steve is out of touch with the real demand for such products.
 
GhostofCain said:
DVDs do not sell. Basically the same reason why Rod and Steve decided to stop releasing singles. :rolleyes:

Funnily enough, he mentions that vinyl albums are released for the collectors. Come on Steve, I'd rather collect singles or DVDs than spend my money on overpriced Ed-Phones!
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He actually said that no-one wants DVD's, which is quite simply incorrect - we want them!
 
Yeah but that carries an implication that the record company probably isn't interested in paying for the production of one, since it won't really make them any money. It doesn't matter if the hardcore IM fanbase would like a DVD if the masses aren't going to buy it. In that sense I'm glad we got a live video release of any kind at all, most other bands just have the occasional stream that never gets officially released outside of the original format. Essentially we could've been stuck with just Wacken and the few Donington songs as the only live release for this tour.
 
Nah I don't agree with this. People buy Maiden DVDs, you know why? First of all, it's a nice big box for the shelf, it has physical value. Second, there's no better format of the content, than on the DVD. I will buy their CDs but I never ever actually play any of their CDs cause they sound shit compared to FLAC vinyl rips. The show has already been mixed and what's the problem with deployment? It's not like the "record company" (which isn't singular btw) provides anything apart from deploying what Maiden already creates.
 
Black Abyss Babe said:
He actually said that no-one wants DVD's, which is quite simply incorrect - we want them!
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He also said, in the same interview, that the difference between a live stream and releasing a DVD is not that great. That releasing it on DVD is actually downscaling the quality of the footage. DVDs are old technology and just not worth it.....

I do wonder if that means they'll never put anything out on DVD again. I doubt that though.
 
I'm fine with DVD's not being released if they continue with the blurays though. DVD's really are outdated.
 
Blu-ray is not nearly as adopted as DVD, it's riddled with proprietary bullshit and its generally a piece of shit standard.
 
Forgive my ignorance of this stuff but Steve says dvd is lower quality than a stream and Zare says that dvd is better than blu-ray. I thought the point of blu-ray was that it is better quality than dvd. But in what way? Sound? Picture? Both? And surely it depends on your tv or monitor? Ive never watched a dvd or blu-ray and thought it was shit quality. I dont watch much of either to be fair, I buy Maiden dvds and watch them once and then usually cherry pick from youtube after that if I feel the desire. I could count on one hand the amount of blu-rays I've watched.
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Non-Tech Person

VHS was grand if ye ask me.....
 
Blue-ray has the ability to be less compressed picture and sound wise, because it uses a different laser to read the data from the disc. The principle is the same.
 
SixesAlltheway said:
He also said, in the same interview, that the difference between a live stream and releasing a DVD is not that great. That releasing it on DVD is actually downscaling the quality of the footage. DVDs are old technology and just not worth it.....

I do wonder if that means they'll never put anything out on DVD again. I doubt that though.
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It indeed sounded as if Maiden will never release concerts on a carrier (DVD, whatever other form) anymore. His story sounded very "in general", using arguments that are not just for this concert release.

Both Harris and Zare must be drawing wrong conclusions. Quality wise: Blu-ray > DVD > streaming.
 
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Yeah. Totally depends if they want to buy fully into the "streaming" is the future thing or not....And just release all future releases on the interwebs. I can still see them do some blue ray releases though perhaps...but I'm not into that. Are blue rays also on their way to becoming a dying media or what?
 
It sounded like he is buying on the streaming thing. Judging his incorrect views on popularity of Maiden DVD's and LP's do not give me hope that he knows anything about, let alone ever heard of the Blu-ray format.

For Maiden, I don't think any of these are a dying format. But he knows more about the sales of his products of course. If they really wanted focus fully on the (very) young people, then indeed streaming might be best? No clue.
 
Well I'll give them that DVDs really are on their way out..like we saw with VHS....

Forostar said:
If they really wanted focus fully on the (very) young people, then indeed streaming might be best? No clue.
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It seems like it. Trying to adapt to how things are at the moment....if they want to reach people with their product, potential fans etc, they have to use the technologies that are popular at the time. Like a Facebook live stream of the entire concert for example...like they did. Like Steve himself says about streaming and uploading things for people to download..."it's becoming more and more the way people listen and watch music these days anyway"
 
Blu-ray is DRM. DRM is easily circumvented if you're a pirate and does nothing except creating security issues for "valid" users and increases their power bill. Matic is talking about the physical layer - it's the same, where laser is measuring the packet gaps in the media. But after it come the problems. If bulk of you isn't aware of how complete stack works, e.g. if you don't know the base process of how a basic 1980s disc player works, then you should read on technical specifications of formatting starting with the "Rainbow Books" series.

You don't need to have so much technical awareness to see that specifications describe everything, nothing is obscured. With blu-ray you have a "black box" part, the laser is reading encrypted information and this needs to be input into it. Look at this;

Contrary to the DVD CSS, which was definitely compromised once the unique encryption key had been discovered, Blu-ray uses stronger DRM mechanisms, which makes it a lot more difficult to manage. Firstly, the AACS standard uses a lot more complicated cryptographic process to protect the disc content, but also allows the industry to revoke compromised keys and distribute new keys through new discs. Secondly, Blu-ray may also use another layer of protection: BD+. Although most of commercial discs use AACS, a few of them additionally use BD+. In 2007, the AACS system was compromised and decryption keys were published on the Internet. Many decryption programs were made available, but the interest to Linux users was the capability of playing their discs - legally purchased - on their computers. Although the industry was able to revoke the first leaked decryption keys, new keys are regularly published in a cat and mouse play.
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Edit : for people not techy, Blu-ray isn't CD, it's a CD in a locked box, and every time you hit play you're depending on the Blu-ray company to send you the key. The key and lock can magically change. You don't have a bloody clue of how the key company works, nor they're ever responsible for denying you a key.

Edit 2 : Maiden don't directly care about this but this has prevented wide adoption of Blu ray, and hence it has hampered releases. Blu-ray is Hollywood stuff. But if you like your Weinstein productions, go right ahead...
 
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Forostar said:
It indeed sounded as if Maiden will never release concerts on a carrier (DVD, whatever other form) anymore. His story sounded very "in general", using arguments that are not just for this concert release.

Both Harris and Zare must be drawing wrong conclusions. Quality wise: Blu-ray > DVD > streaming.
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Absolute bullshit, mate.

Streaming isn't quality standard it's a communication modus operandi as opposed to packeting. Packeting cannot be easily speed adjusted. Blu-ray problem isn't "quality", it's something different, read above.
 
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