Josh
Ancient Mariner
I understand. I wouldn't want to talk about Metallica's music for the last 20 years either.
Senjutsu - 3rd September 2021
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I understand. I wouldn't want to talk about Metallica's music for the last 20 years either.
Josh
Ancient Mariner
Right. I'm not helping matters either so I'll stop with the Metallica talk.
Woah man, no need to bring this into the discussion. It's trivialising the aggressive Russian expansionism that goes at the cost of innocent people in Ukraine, Georgia and Belarus. There's a serious problem with the love for autocracy in many western countries these days and it's in large part Putin's doing by meddling with internal affairs, letting loose troll bots and buying right-wing politicians. It's a fucking nightmare and people are just buying into it. Can you tell a Russian bot from a MAGA retard? Can we even know Q isn't a creature of Putin's? It would be great if at least we could be certain there's nobody in our parliaments who isn't secretly sucking his dick, but we can't.
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
Azas
Muted
I am from one of Baltic State's, Lithuania. My country was occupied for 50 years. Russia is our neighbour. I will tell to You all Western People... If You symphathise to Putin in any tiniest form, if you think he's doing good job at his 'office', You are not Educated Fool, sir, You are total moron and imbecile. Rant over.
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srfc
Ancient Mariner
There's this myth that Metallica delve deeper into their back catalogue than Maiden.
But a lot of these deep cuts are only played the odd time. Whereas Maiden bust out a huge percentage of new albums, every night on tour, which means if you did the maths, and I'm fairly sure someone on here did before, Maiden are mopping the floor with Metallica when it comes to the proportion of their back catalogue that has been played over 50 times live.
Iron Lurker
Ancient Mariner
One potential downside for me of changing setlists around is I could possibly be set up to be disappointed. One example: Metallica plays Spit Out the Bone last gig. I really hope they play it at my gig because it's the best song they've recorded in centuries. And if they don't it would be a negative for me.
Seconded. Can't get enough of that song!
Diesel 11
As you scream into the web of silence...
Zare, you started off by saying that this isn't your opinion and this is certain fact. I disagreed and outlined why I disagree (with only a very slight dig at Metallica) which proves inherently that what you're saying IS only your opinion. Get your head out of your ass or go to bed please.
Hi, please don't make me moderate this thread, please. Let's all chill out.
DJMayes
Ancient Mariner
By the same token there's the chance you are forced to listen to a song you don't want to hear. Imagine being the city where ATG gets swapped for TAATG...But there's chance, you will hear a song that you want to hear, you know.
Flaming Blimp Crash
Ancient Mariner
Let's not bring this debate to James Hetfield?
Iron Lurker
Ancient Mariner
From someone who went to Bruce's latest show, this is what he said about Senjutsu: "he said about it being available from 03 September, that the music was not all like WOTW: there’s lots of different sounds, some long songs, some short and that he was also working on some solo stuff!"
Flaming Blimp Crash
Ancient Mariner
I was really hyped when I got Spit Out the Bone at my first show. Second show they played it again and I was like "Oh, Spit again? Cool." Then when they did Fight Fire with Fire in its place at my third show I lost my shit (in a good way.)
I think if Maiden were to ever do this it could work with a light rotation rather than "Okay, we've rehearsed 40 songs for this tour and we're just going to plug and play them wherever we want in the set any given night." Something like this would've worked for TBoS 2016...
1. If Eternity Should Fail
2. [Speed of Light / Death or Glory]
3. [Children of the Damned / Revelations]
4. [Tears of a Clown / The Great Unknown]
5. The Red and the Black
6. The Trooper
7. Powerslave
8. [Death or Glory / Speed of Light]
9. The Book of Souls
10. Hallowed Be Thy Name
11. Fear of the Dark
12. Iron Maiden
=================
13. The Number of the Beast
14. Blood Brothers
15. [Wasted Years / Run to the Hills / 2 Minutes to Midnight / Running Free / Sanctuary]
Iron Lurker
Ancient Mariner
But I'm never going to see Metallica 3x in a row...and tbh probably not even Maiden.
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And from those cuts we have live releases, bootlegs and so on.
Where I fail to see the point of people like Diesel 11 is, you're not attending 99% of the gigs yet you desire it to be always in the same format so there's absolutely no chance they fail to meet your expectations once you see them. In the end diversity of what's been left behind hurts a lot. In 10 years time Maiden will cease to play live and with that any chance of getting these gems out dies. What's a gem to someone is shit to another, yes, someone might hate CSiT but it does deserve to be played live at least once more, desires of all the Diesel 11s and other attenders of that particular gig that wish not the be negatively surprised at the unannounced setlist change be damned.
There are many, many more people who have seen the recording of Frayed Ends live, than those who were in the audience. Metallica knew a lot of that audience isn't really into the song. But they did it once, for fucks sake, for the rest of us and for history.
That's why Maiden approach is inferior - it caters to the average fan only.
Also this only touches the main live performances, where are all the other live exposures, TV shows, one time specials? Nowhere, there are none.
About the Russia thing, I can't discern now whether Perun was intentionally sarcastic - that kind of response was exactly what I was writing about, going tangents about things out of context. I hate the little Kremlin gimp (I was about to post Bald's recent Ukraine/Donbass video that I've watched at 3AM yesterday then went sleeping) as much as the next normal person, let's just get that out of the way. I mean if you're Jewish, you might get triggered by someone that doesn't know you're jewish and you're talking about mustache. So he refers to Charlie Chaplin's mustache via another name and now you start an out of context political rant. It's ok to switch subjects if one feels so but it is not relevant for the discussion at hand. I talk about generic approach the other biggest metal band ever took, in exposing their live work to the audience, and then someone strays of with talk about inferior albums in last 20 years.
Flaming Blimp Crash
Ancient Mariner
One detail I left out, it wasn't exactly all in a row, haha. It was like one show one week, one show the next week, one show the next week and then two shows a couple months later. The sense of unpredictability (even if 2/3rds of the show is going to be the same from the last show) is really fun.
SixesAlltheway
Ancient Mariner
So basically Bruce said nothing about Senjutsu if we go by what this guy said. That's pretty cheap since Bruce pretty much used it to advertise/sell tickets in one of his latest videos.