07-SMS:A1L
Nomad
Only Swedes know how to engage in a bitter yet entertaining way online!I have no horse in this race, but out of context as a third party this exchange is hilarious![]()
Only Swedes know how to engage in a bitter yet entertaining way online!I have no horse in this race, but out of context as a third party this exchange is hilarious![]()
It's real! They had the base set and the second encore is basically either spare songs they performed on and off during the 1998 tour or simply stuff they played the tour before and happened to remember. Blaze talks about this in his book. I can get you some photos if you'd like? Heres one from the soundcheck:This seriously can't be an actual setlist? Blaze's voice would have given out long before the end.
Rehearsal and secret show with breaks. Probably that's why it wasn't recorded. Imagine Maiden still doing that! But over 22/23 songs is not good for any vocalist.Insane to think they did an almost 3 hour long show with Blaze at the start of Virtual XI World tour:
![]()
Iron Maiden Setlist at The Oval Rock House, Norwich
Get the Iron Maiden Setlist of the concert at The Oval Rock House, Norwich, England on April 22, 1998 from the Virtual XI World Tour and other Iron Maiden Setlists for free on setlist.fm!www.setlist.fm
Oddities and rarities also make tours special. They're important. And this gig had at least 7! A deep cuts tour would be something.That would've, unironically, been my dream show. So many oddities and rarities.
Ofc, and especially with the new stage, which will be the main novelty (the classics presented in a new way), but that doesn't exclude some surprise songs. Every tour is like that more or less.It's gonna be a great tour. We can all bitch and moan about this song or that song or this tempo or that tempo, but the second you get in that arena and Doctor Doctor starts playing: it's an incredible moment. This will be no exception.
Agreed about Blaze and the first show of the 1998 tour. Eagles is ''like'' Trooper, the last years. They should change that for this year, especially with Hallowed. I guess Murders was the opener because of BOH.I was just listening to Ullevi earlier today and while WED wasn't that far into the set, I could certainly see why he wanted it to be the second song of the night for LOTB. That's a bitch of a song and even at his peak back in 2005, evidently it should've been the show opener...
I can't imagine it was much fun for Blaze since not only was he doing a far longer set, he was spending a significant portion of it way out of his range too. It might be for the best there's no bootlegs of that show since his voice was quite probably completely shot by the second encore.
Bruce's solo tours back then were around 13 songs, which was kind of odd, and his voice was incredible.It was and, to be fair, Bruce’s voice wouldn’t have lasted that long either.
I get your overall point and agree, always ''best of'' tours for the 80's, but I wouldn't call a Hits tour to celebrate 50 years (it should have been all albums, but still) a wrong direction. And that's their habit since 2003, although I thought after LOTB and TFP theme they would skip it. Maybe it's because of the anniv. The History concept is cool if you play rare songs and if they continued with the 90's and a proper Reunion tour, but at least they play a lot of new songs live and bands rarely do tours for their least popular stuff. If it wasn't for the History concept, the tours would have been just Hits like Give Me Ed one. I mean, what else, ideas(?). Plus they need a theme for the stage set. Casual fans or not, every band knows they can't (fully or for more tours in a row) drop the classics. That's it, always has been. Maiden are making their sets interesting for the most part and I'm grateful.Yeah, this is pretty common among casual fans. They tend to gravitate toward a condensed, greatest-hits style set, missing the key point that Iron Maiden has a rich, diverse history with a wealth of exciting material that demands more attention and engagement from the audience. Unfortunately, this impacts hardcore fans who appreciate deeper cuts like No Prayer for the Dying songs live, the Blaze-era songs, A Matter of Life and Death performed in full, and post reunion material. While we do get the occasional deep dive, I personally feel that another greatest-hits setlist focused on the first nine albums is the wrong direction for next summer. Enough with the 'best of' tours. Somewhere Back in Time and Early Days were fantastic, but the history tour concept got stale pretty quickly after that. To be honest, I’d rather see a tour dedicated exclusively to material post-Fear of the Dark. Or better yet—write a new album and perform it in full, with three or four classics thrown in for good measure.
By the bastards?I know us hardcore fans would love more diverse setlists but we are outnumbered, especially in the States. I would argue a set based on the first 9 albums will work best in the USA at least.
I'm not a casual Maiden fan and I never said I want a 1h40mins greatest hits setlist. I just find the Blaze era (especially virtual XI) incredibly boring. They played live the best Blaze era songs with Bruce and they sounded better, but no need to play the rest of them (imo they're the only Maiden albums (+FotD) that the best songs are the "hits", not really hits but you know SotC, Clansman, Futureal, Lord of the flies etc). If they did a reunion setlist without any hits I'd be fine. I also want less hits and more deep cuts, but it should be balanced. I was pleasantly surprised that they didn't play 666 or RTTH in the FP tour, which was a tour that they played 5 Senjutsu, 5 SiT, Prisoner (not expected) and 4 hits (my favourite tour tbh, because HOE is my fav reunion song and SIT my fav Maiden album). I think they can still make it interesting even with a "best of" tour.Yeah, this is pretty common among casual fans. They tend to gravitate toward a condensed, greatest-hits style set, missing the key point that Iron Maiden has a rich, diverse history with a wealth of exciting material that demands more attention and engagement from the audience. Unfortunately, this impacts hardcore fans who appreciate deeper cuts like No Prayer for the Dying songs live, the Blaze-era songs, A Matter of Life and Death performed in full, and post reunion material. While we do get the occasional deep dive, I personally feel that another greatest-hits setlist focused on the first nine albums is the wrong direction for next summer. Enough with the 'best of' tours. Somewhere Back in Time and Early Days were fantastic, but the history tour concept got stale pretty quickly after that. To be honest, I’d rather see a tour dedicated exclusively to material post-Fear of the Dark. Or better yet—write a new album and perform it in full, with three or four classics thrown in for good measure.
You dont want a 3 hour Blaze Bayley fronted Maiden gig and you dont want a 1h40mins greatest hits setlist. This is like trying to work out dinner with my girlfriend.I'm not a casual Maiden fan and I never said I want a 1h40mins greatest hits setlist.
Bruce is incredible, delivering outstanding performances on Clansman, Sign of the Cross, Lord of the Flies, Futureal, and Man on the Edge. However, The X Factor simply wouldn't be the same without Blaze. His vocals, contributions to the album, and live performances helped shape the material into what it is today.They played live the best Blaze era songs with Bruce and they sounded better,
Agreed!If they did a reunion setlist without any hits I'd be fine. I also want less hits and more deep cuts, but it should be balanced. I was pleasantly surprised that they didn't play 666 or RTTH in the FP tour, which was a tour that they played 5 Senjutsu, 5 SiT, Prisoner (not expected) and 4 hits (my favourite tour tbh, because HOE is my fav reunion song and SIT my fav Maiden album). I think they can still make it interesting even with a "best of" tour.
Balanced indeed, like 3-5 big classics and the rest- other classics from the 80's (not always the same ones) and popular/rare cuts. That's it. And that's what they usually do. They can do a Reunion setlist without hits, but since they didn't do it in 2010...If they did a reunion setlist without any hits I'd be fine. I also want less hits and more deep cuts, but it should be balanced. I was pleasantly surprised that they didn't play 666 or RTTH in the FP tour, which was a tour that they played 5 Senjutsu, 5 SiT, Prisoner (not expected) and 4 hits (my favourite tour tbh, because HOE is my fav reunion song and SIT my fav Maiden album). I think they can still make it interesting even with a "best of" tour.
A History/Hits tour for the Reunion era would be like Part 2, right (with at least Iron Maiden and Fear). Popular enough. But I don't think it would follow the new tour. Still believe in a new album. Another Legacy-style tour? Why not, with screens it's easier, but I kind of doubt it.If they do another History tour it will be a reunion one. They have done all the other concepts in recent years. I don't think they'd do a 90s tour. Personally I'd prefer a Legacy style tour with a focus on the reunion albums but some 80s and 90s songs inbetween, not necessarily hits. They might release another album, who knows. I really like the concept of the Run for your lives tour though, if they don't play only hits. It's the best way to celebrate 50 years because most fans became fans back then or by listening to these albums. I don't think many people became Maiden fans by listening to Blaze era or the reunion albums. I am an exception, because I became a fan in the early 00s with BNW, DOD and AMOLAD, but still my favourite is SIT. Imo by making it only the first 9 albums , it gives them more room to play deeper cuts off these albums.
The problem is that if it were all the albums, they would just play songs like Wicker Man or Dance of Death from the reunion albums. I don't think they would play something unexpected from the reunion in an anniversary tour. So, the first 9 albums is a better concept for that tour.Making it only the first 9 albums gives them more room, but even if it were all albums, the 80's albums would have been in the spotlight. Some Reunion era songs would have taken some 90's songs' spots. Blaze era songs in a 50 anniv tour wouldn't have been expected, even for Maiden. Their least popular era. Although it's a thing bands should do, all albums. Odd and at the same time not that odd theme (the classics).
On one hand, sure. On the other: I'd take another round of Dance Of Death over the millionth time of RTTH or TNOTB.The problem is that if it were all the albums, they would just play songs like Wicker Man or Dance of Death from the reunion albums. I don't think they would play something unexpected from the reunion in an anniversary tour. So, the first 9 albums is a better concept for that tour.
Me too, but those 2 songs are a given for this tour anyway. Dance of Death would take the place of another song, probably a lengthy one too. Now that there are only 9 albums, they have room for some deep cuts if they want to and I have a feeling they will do that.On one hand, sure. On the other: I'd take another round of Dance Of Death over the millionth time of RTTH or TNOTB.
Oh, I didn't mean deep cuts from the Reunion era. At this point I'll take any (more) of the Reunion era songs in the set, the usual ones. Like 90's songs. I also don't expect ''deep cuts'' (to say) even if they do a Reunion tour, and it's a bit hard to point out them more or less.The problem is that if it were all the albums, they would just play songs like Wicker Man or Dance of Death from the reunion albums. I don't think they would play something unexpected from the reunion in an anniversary tour. So, the first 9 albums is a better concept for that tour.
True, either an 80's epic or a 90's song, but as we saw from the latest tour, one set can have 3+ epics/longer songs in it. I also think they will do.Me too, but those 2 songs are a given for this tour anyway. Dance of Death would take the place of another song, probably a lengthy one too. Now that there are only 9 albums, they have room for some deep cuts if they want to and I have a feeling they will do that.