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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by IronDuke, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. KidInTheDark666

    KidInTheDark666 The island where the souls of dead are reborn

    Blues have won 7 games in a row and are now in the 1. wild card spot of West. Things didn't look very good a month ago but I'm so glad they turned it around.
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  2. Onhell

    Onhell Infinite Dreamer

    The Blues, along with Philly and Chicago are teams that are turning it around, hopefully not too late for a playoff run. The Blues and Philly, though, have something in common. Rookie goalies playing extremely well. Everyone knew Carter Hart was Philly's next stud goalie, but they didn't want to rush him. Due to the circumstances and injuries, they had to. Thankfully he's responded well so far. 8 straight victories. The Blues rookie goalie is doing the same for them. Finally providing consistently strong play in net. With Minnesota missing Koivu for the rest of the season due to injury and the way the Blues and Hawks are playing, how the West ends up will be the unreported story of the second half of the season.

    The headlines will continue to be about Panarin, the Kings and Ducks poor play and if this is the real Golden Knights v. last season's.
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  3. TheTalisman

    TheTalisman Fågel

    Oct 8, 2017

    A bit too early...but at least I don't look ridiculous anymore. They have a chance of winning their division for the first time since 2005/2006 with 74 points in 55 games. I think they can go deep in the playoffs too if Dave Rittich can stay consistent in net (or if Smith can get his act together)
    What's interesting is that they have won so many games with average or below average goaltending:
    Rittich save percentage is 91.5 % in 33 games, while Mike Smith's percentage is 88.9 % in 27 games.

    Iginla's number to be retired on march 2 btw.
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2019
  4. Onhell

    Onhell Infinite Dreamer

    What is amazing is the little attention that they're getting! I just saw the standings yesterday and was completely surprised as to how well they're doing. Most of the headlines around them are about their inconsistent goaltending, so I thought they were in trouble and nope.... one of the teams to beat out West. Amazing.

    Good on Iginla! Him and Kipper carried them for years.
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  5. TheTalisman

    TheTalisman Fågel

    Goaltenders used by Calgary since Kiprusoff's injury in his final year, 6 years ago, until today (from 2005 to 2012 it didn't matter much who they had more than Kipper - Joseph, Mcelhinney, Toskala...whatever).

    Leland Irving
    Joey Mcdonald
    Daniel Taylor
    Karri Ramo
    Reto Berra
    Joni Ortio
    Jonas Hiller
    Nicklas Bäckström
    Brian Elliott
    Chad Johnson
    Jon Gillies
    David Rittich
    Eddie Lack
    Mike Smith

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  6. Onhell

    Onhell Infinite Dreamer

    All played REALLY well elswhere. Ramo and Berra were promising prospects that didn't pan out, but Backstrom, Hiller, Johnson and Elliot, did play from well, to great elswhere. Smith went to Calgary after very strong seasons in Arizona.
  7. TheTalisman

    TheTalisman Fågel

    Yes, the Flames were a difficult team to play for during the rebuild. Kiprusoff struggled in his final year as well: 3.44 GAA, 88.2 SVS % in 24 games.
  8. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    I would argue the real reason David Rittich is doing well is named "Mark Giordano".
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  9. TheTalisman

    TheTalisman Fågel

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  10. Onhell

    Onhell Infinite Dreamer

    Better that than not play at all. Knew the name rang bells, yup, Flyers goalie. That's where I remember him from.
  11. bearfan

    bearfan Ancient Mariner

    I am actually thinking the Hawks will make the playoffs and I am happy with that. I am not a fan of "lose for Hughes: for a few reasons .. 1) no promise you draft 1st with the lottery 2) I think organizations can get a culture of losing, not a ton of danger of that with Kane, Toews, Keith, etc, but still lot's of young players might get sucked into that 3) You make the playoffs, who knows what happens .. odds of the Hawks going all the way (or even getting to round 2) would be slim, but looks like Crawford is coming back soon and he can win a series 4) I think it gives them something to build on for next year, the D needs help, they need another forward to give them 3 scoring lines.

    Anyway, the season is much more enjoyable now, the D is bad, but the games are at least fun to watch and knowing they will not have to dump salary for once, there are some good young players on the team and in the organization, and they can fill needs in FA next year and maybe have another run in them in the next couple of years.

    It helps that the Wild are a dumpster fire right now and I think the Hawks can pass them and Colorado.
  12. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    When you look at the history of tanking in the lottery era, it's not necessarily successful. Edmonton is an absolute nuclear disaster and they had 4 #1 lottery picks in the 2010s. Buffalo tanked for McDavid and while they got Eichel as a consolation, the team is still ruined from their scorched earth approach. You can certainly argue that some teams made moves that helped them to better lottery balls (IE the Leafs before they drafted Matthews), but the straight-up tank leaves you with a ruined roster and a poor culture.

    Some minor moves yesterday - Talbot to the Flyers, likely to make sure they don't ruin Carter Hart; Vancouver and Edmonton swap depth players.

    But yeah, looking at Edmonton's first round drafting is just sad. I think I actually did that before so I'm not gonna write it out, but they manage their first round picks about as well as Toronto did in the 1990s.
  13. bearfan

    bearfan Ancient Mariner

  14. Onhell

    Onhell Infinite Dreamer

    As much as I hate him from a professional standpoint, I don't have anything against the guy and it is sad he had to retire, due to how bad it got. At least he had a more than successful career, few players reach the heights he did.

    We both did lol. Thank god the days of tanking on purpose are long gone. Which one would you say was the last one that actually worked? The only one I can think of is Lemieux, but I'm sure there were others.

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