Midnight
The Ever-Present "It"
You could download the YouTube videos and burn them to a disc.
Nights of the Dead, Legacy of the Beast: Live in Mexico City (new live album)
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What @Midnight said. I'm sure it already exists on countless hard drives. Ripping YouTube videos is not a problem in our day and age if you know how to do it. If Maiden ever choose to take it down on their YouTube channel, it will appear in numerous corners on the web.
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In 2010 there was a YT video of Ronaldinho set to Kryptonite by 3 doors down. The video montage is phenomenal. The video had millions of views. It was taken down at some point. The only place you can find that video today is just one not really active video site, that used to copy / transcode YT videos onto itself back in those days. I found the site when YT video went down, in 2012, and downloaded FLV video off it. The quality on that site, of course, is crap even compared to YT 2010.
I just did a search and that site is still the only one hosting a degraded copy.
After it goes down, the only thing that will remain is the authors original (if he still has it) and degraded copies in 'private' hands around the world. Following on that, why should I upload that degraded copy somewhere, I will get copyright strike?
So yes, if Maiden decides to pull back YT content (which I don't believe they'll do, 'cause they're Iron Maiden, but the question in general is valid) - you'll have no way of ever watching the content in question in its nominal quality online. Either degraded copy will be put to stream, and then risk being pulled down due to legality, or you'll have to trade files with someone that downloaded that video.
Edit : younger people that have lived their whole lives in Internet age must realize it's all just a bunch of hardware hooked to wires and someone is paying the electric bill. As much as it seems omnipresent it really isn't. Keep the stuff that's important to you offline, hard drive space is cheap.
I just did a search and that site is still the only one hosting a degraded copy.
After it goes down, the only thing that will remain is the authors original (if he still has it) and degraded copies in 'private' hands around the world. Following on that, why should I upload that degraded copy somewhere, I will get copyright strike?
So yes, if Maiden decides to pull back YT content (which I don't believe they'll do, 'cause they're Iron Maiden, but the question in general is valid) - you'll have no way of ever watching the content in question in its nominal quality online. Either degraded copy will be put to stream, and then risk being pulled down due to legality, or you'll have to trade files with someone that downloaded that video.
Edit : younger people that have lived their whole lives in Internet age must realize it's all just a bunch of hardware hooked to wires and someone is paying the electric bill. As much as it seems omnipresent it really isn't. Keep the stuff that's important to you offline, hard drive space is cheap.
srfc
Ancient Mariner
I actually did that with the complete show when they had that on youtube as I bought the itunes version but I couldn't put it on an external drive to watch on my big TV because of the copyright protection, but I was thinking more of a new fan going forward, there might be a time in the future where that footage is not available for them.
srfc
Ancient Mariner
The itunes LP version of The Final Frontier is gone now as well, and the Onkyo Hi-Def versions of the 2015 remasters are gone.
I know you can get the Hi-Def versions on other sites, but I'm sceptical of the legitimacy of them. HD Tracks is selling a fake version of Somewhere Back in Time on there. It's not a Hi-Def remaster of Somewhere Back in Time, it's the individual tracks compiled from their original albums and copied and pasted into a playlist, you can tell as the crowd noise on the live tracks doesn't fade out. If they are lying about that, how can you trust any of their files as being legitimate?
I know you can get the Hi-Def versions on other sites, but I'm sceptical of the legitimacy of them. HD Tracks is selling a fake version of Somewhere Back in Time on there. It's not a Hi-Def remaster of Somewhere Back in Time, it's the individual tracks compiled from their original albums and copied and pasted into a playlist, you can tell as the crowd noise on the live tracks doesn't fade out. If they are lying about that, how can you trust any of their files as being legitimate?
chaosapiant
Ancient Marinade
Wasn’t the Death on the Road live video delayed over the audio release because it took them forever to get it mixed in 5.1 and Stereo? Hence them doing it on separate discs?
Iron Lurker
Ancient Mariner
Possibly. My memory is not as good as it used to be. I do remember though that the discs sold in the US (and perhaps other places) had to be re-released as there was a manufacturing defect on the discs that were causing them to stop and/or skip. So I had to buy a 2nd one after they fixed it
Travis The Dragon
AFTERGLOW!!!
It's still an official online live video release. And I don't think it's going anywhere and I'm sure it's been downloaded and can be found elsewhere.
Now I think we have a very great chance of some sort of video release. Let's hope Maiden feel it's worthy of a physical release.
Sth2112
Ancient Mariner
Correct. It didn’t even come out in America until early 2007 due to production error on the original European version that had to be corrected. Issues with 5:1 mode I think it was
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
The issues that forced the delay of the Death on the Road DVD were due to the copy protection that had been added to the discs. That made them unplayable with most equipment...
A rather embarrassing cock-up that was brushed under the carpet by the Maiden team.
A rather embarrassing cock-up that was brushed under the carpet by the Maiden team.
Ruflux
Ancient Mariner
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but some copies of the DVD still had issues with the 5.1 track, specifically something to do with the LFE channel not playing correctly, resulting in muted bass and bass drum on some copies. I'm glad we don't have to worry about those issues anymore since not only are there no 5.1 mixes of new Maiden live material anymore, this time there won't even be a video of any kind.
Ascendingthethrone
Ancient Mariner
I still have the faulty copy and rewatched it recently. The image starts to skip during BNW on the stereo disc. It was really weird.
I remember Dave Pattenden (who compiled the DVD) released a press statement basically complaining that all the fans were moaning about the product. I found this amusing considering it was originally supposed to be released when the CD was released in August 2005 but they delayed it to improve the quality! Oh the irony...
I remember Dave Pattenden (who compiled the DVD) released a press statement basically complaining that all the fans were moaning about the product. I found this amusing considering it was originally supposed to be released when the CD was released in August 2005 but they delayed it to improve the quality! Oh the irony...
Yax
Ancient Mariner
I thought it was pretty "matter of fact-ly".
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Ascendingthethrone
Ancient Mariner
You’re right. It was less moany than I remember!I thought it was pretty "matter of fact-ly".
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GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
You’ve got to love him mentioning “Mr Harris’s own golden eyes” as the benchmark for quality control... 
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
I thought it was pretty "matter of fact-ly".
IRON MAIDEN - Sanctuary Issue Statement Regarding Death On The Road DVD Glitches
IRON MAIDEN fan site MaidenFans.com (www.maidenfans.com) has issued the following report:Dave Pattenden, Sanctuary's Death On The Road project manager, gave an official statement directed to the fans about the DVD problems which recently surfaced."For those of you who don't know me, my name is...
As far as I can remember, the DVD was recalled and later re-released without the problems in 2007 with no mention about this on the band’s website.
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You've answered your own question.
The drum sound on LAD is called "cardboard drums". Caused by the recording technology and crappy practices of the day. Noone wanted that sort of a drum sound, but they couldn't do better.
LAD is judged in the context of its time. Drums don't sound good but the playing is excellent and since that "not good" is the standard of the day, it gets a free pass. However it's 2020 and we have 30+ years of sound development.
What LAD does great, is the guitar sound that complements the drum sound. Guitars are thin too, but razor sharp, energetic, and full of clarity. It makes the whole recording very 'airy' which is not an usual feat of a live metal album (wall of sound ftw amirite). This is achievable cause one of the best bassists to ever grace the rock genre glues the drum and guitars together. All ads up to unique character of LAD and why it's considered as greatest of all time type album.
LAD drums weren't wanted, but they got them and needed to work around it - hence the other production choices.
None of this is present on the current live release, Harris's bass plays a different role in the last 20 years due to the 3 guitar setup, it's quite impossible to create a perfect clarity of 4 heavily distorted electric string instruments in a stereo space.