Martin Birch - the master

Discussion in 'Maiden Chat' started by John Silver, Aug 24, 2018.

  1. GhostofCain

    GhostofCain Ancient Mariner

    The link I posted above (http://ultimateclassicrock.com/rolling-stones-mobile-studio/) mentions some of the things it was used for after NPFTD.

     
  2. stjerky

    stjerky Nomad

    Only recording in Hammersmith.
     
  3. GhostofCain

    GhostofCain Ancient Mariner

    True. The Record Plant Mobile was used for the recordings at Long Beach Arena.
     
  4. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    Here's his full engineer/producer credits:

    Deep Purple:
    Deep Purple In Rock, Fireball, Machine Head, Made in Japan, Who Do we Think we Are?, Burn, Stormbringer, Made in Europe, Come Taste the Band, Last Concert in Japan

    Jon Lord: Gemini Suite, Sarabande, First of the big bangs, Malice in Wonderland

    Black Sabbath: Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules

    Rainbow: Ritchie Blackmore’s Rainbow, Rising, On Stage, Long Live Rock and Roll

    Whitesnake: Lovehunter, Ready an’ Willing, Live in the Heart of the City, Come an’ Get it, Saints an’ Sinners, Slide it In

    Blue Oyster Cult: Cultosaurus Erectus, Fire of Unknown Origin

    Michael Schenker Group: Assault Attack

    Iron Maiden: Killers, The Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, etc etc etc.

    Wishbone Ash: Wishbone Ash, Pilgrimage, Argus

    Fleetwood Mac: Then Play On, Kiln House, Bare Trees ,Penguin, Mystery to Me

    Any others?
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2018
  5. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    And some of his nick names on album credits:
    Black Night, Sir Larry, Basher, Big Ears, Court Jester, Doc, The Farmer, The Wasp, Headmaster, Jah, Live Animal, Masa, Mummy’s Curse, Plan B, Pool Bully, The Bishop, The Juggler, The Ninja, Phantom of the Jolly Cricketers, Disappearing Armchair.
     
  6. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    Fair game, I disagree alone then.
    In the case of No Prayer... it meant recording the record under extremely difficult circumstances, including sessions being held in a barn in Steve Harris’ backyard. That "studio" was upgraded for Fear..., but by then Harris had dipped his toes in.
    Birch since retired at 42!!!!
    Too bad Steve learned what seems to be very little from Birch, going by his production credits since.
     
  7. GhostofCain

    GhostofCain Ancient Mariner

    Many more, including Fleetwood Mac, Jon Lord and many others:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Birch
     
  8. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    Of course Fleetwood Mac, where is my mind, I'll edit em in. Thanks buddy
     
  9. GhostofCain

    GhostofCain Ancient Mariner

    I did not know he was born so close to where I live!
     
  10. GhostofCain

    GhostofCain Ancient Mariner

    My pleasure!
     
  11. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    Found this interview with Martin Birch and Steve Harris around the No Prayer release
    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2wnuvz

    I'm amazed how under the radar Birch seems to be as an acknowlegded producer.
     
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  12. Black Bart

    Black Bart Ancient Mariner

    Thanks for the video but is your comment ironic? He had been in demand non-stop since the early 70s. And he was already "semi-retired" at the time of Fear of the Dark.
     
  13. I really hate the production on SIT, the vocals sound distant and the whole album sounds over produced.
    The production on FOTD wasn't good,
    And I would have thought the producer should have picked up the bad timing issues on the intro to Hallowed be thy name.

    I really liked the production of Powerslave though.
     
  14. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    I mean in today's view, there are hardly any interviews to be found with him, though there are some articles around. He just seems to be forgotten about, buddy except in Purple and Maiden fans minds.
     
  15. soundwave

    soundwave Educated Fool

    The reverb gloss of SIT perfectly captures the sci fi vibe of the album. Love the production on that one. Though I can see why others might not jive with it.
     
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  16. frus

    frus Barbed Wire Hen

    I think he did wonders with that shitty sound, made the best of it
    Even more so on SSOASS
     
  17. karljant

    karljant Ancient Mariner

    Maiden: Killers (way ahead of its time and IMO way ahead of the next 3 studio albums), Live After Death (this how a live album should sound like), Somewhere In Time (unique and gracefull incorporation of synths) and Seventh Son (top notch overall quality). These are my 4 picks for distinct reasons. No Prayer and FOTD are also great but came in a time great productions were already abumdant.
    Others: Mob Rules has all that heavyness while remaining bright. Superb.
     
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  18. karljant

    karljant Ancient Mariner

    ....:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
     
  19. karljant

    karljant Ancient Mariner

    That's exactly the point. Would Birch use the same mixing method he did in Killers (his previous best production and one of his best ever) the result would be something like Priest's Turbo where the synths don't mingle with the rest. By softening the rest of the instruments and giving a little harshness to the synth parts it all fits perfectly.
     
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  20. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    Excellent, no, EXCELLENT first choice there, buddy.
    The other three are, well, very good thanks to Martin's work. No Prayer and Fear was when 'Arry the fairy thought he could domas well as Martin, but in the end failed miserably.
     

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