Martin Birch - the master

Discussion in 'Maiden Chat' started by John Silver, Aug 24, 2018.

  1. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    There are some extremely nerdy buddies on this forum here.

    I’ll raise you 50 and say that Iron Maiden is timeless then.
    Somewhere in Time on the other hand is the worst thing Martin had to work with. I mean the guys brought in synths.
     
  2. harrisdevot

    harrisdevot Priest of the Holy Wristband

    So, if I understand correctly, you hate the sound of the album, but you praise the producer for saving it ?
     
  3. frus

    frus Barbed Wire Hen

    No, just the guitars
    And I praise Martin for still making the best out of it, so it didn't turn out a complete disaster :D
     
  4. Formula409

    Formula409 Invader

    SIT is "saved" by having a very healthy and dry drum sound, without the typical over-the-top 80's snare reverb, for example. So while the guitars have that chorusy sound, the rhythm section is actually very dry and natural sounding and tight as hell. Nicko's playing on that album is just out of this world.
     
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  5. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    Just revisited Powerslave and Seventh Son the other day. For the first time in a while.

    Man oh man, they sound like gold.
     
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  6. Ruflux

    Ruflux Ancient Mariner

    Eh, PoM and SiT sound better.
     
  7. Well Powerslave is sublime.
    POM is excellent
    Seventhson has some moments but overall not great
    SIT is OK but I hate the overall sound of it.
     
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  8. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    Powerslave, buddy. That sound Martin achieved. Not Maiden. Martin!
    May even be better than Killers Buddy forbid it.
     
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  9. GhostofCain

    GhostofCain Ancient Mariner

    I think Powerslave might well be the zenith of the albums Maiden did with Martin Birch in terms of sound. Fantastic!
     
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  10. Ruflux

    Ruflux Ancient Mariner

    The drums have an awful ring to them and the guitars are heavy on the mids and kind of nasal sounding. Neither are issues on PoM or SiT. It sounds okay, but nothing particularly amazing in 2019.
     
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  11. Formula409

    Formula409 Invader

    In a shocking revelation, it seems like everybody has their own favourites and not-so-favorites among Maiden albums when it comes to the production and sound.

    But overall I think it’s great that every album has a distinct sound and sonic personality. It takes about two seconds of listening and you can pretty much tell which album is in question. I hate it when a band churns out records that sound exactly the same, like... well the first example I can think of is Megadeth post-2000.
     
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  12. Jer

    Jer I’m not a fish, I’m a man

    Hmm, The World Needs A Hero, The System Has Failed, United Abominations, and Endgame all sound very different to my ears...
     
  13. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    Going through Martin’s work with Whitesnake, I must say some of them are stellar in terms of sound. Slide it in has some groovy sounds, Trouble just breathes with clarity, Saints n’ Sinners is smooth. Damn, Birch is almost always batting on a full wicket. Impressive.
     
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  14. GhostofCain

    GhostofCain Ancient Mariner

    Shame he couldn't force David Coverdale to write better lyrics...
     
  15. John Silver

    John Silver Electric Buddy

    Ah well, bro, I agree but can we establish it as a fact that that Birch was a master engineer of sounds, but many of the lyricists he worked with were kinda shabby.
     
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  16. I agree with Formula409. I liked Megadeth better when they had Friedman, I find their later albums pretty generic now.
     

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