Maiden and upcoming departures

frus said:
So you've already got insight of future events! :scared:
Please do tell
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Well you dont strike me a clever person so I dont know if basic math will do you any good but statistically a successful band keeps going even after losing key members. Why would Maiden be any different? I don’t know if they are or not, but time will tell!
 
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fekso said:
Fair enough. How can you be sure what AC/DC did to Johnson is worse than anything done by any other band? There's no way you got that insight. As much as I wish Iron Maiden's last lineup change was in 1999, I'm not sure that's the way it's gonna go down.
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I was obviously talking about matters that have been publicly displayed. In my opinion, what they have done to Johnson is shocking and I know of no equivalent of that (look, I'm really cautious) by any of the bands you cited. To my knowledge, Judas Priest has not been very elegant in the Dave Holland case (kind of : who's this guy ?) but that's quite understandable given what he had done. Kiss is a business ran by two guys, but none of their partners in the band has been with them for 36 years.
As for Maiden, they've given many signs at this point that they won't act as assholes to each other. Janick being kept in the band in 1999, the band reporting sine die the already booked 2015 tour, Steve asking for Bruce's permission to tour with BL the same year. In the same vein, Steve getting in touch with some former band members is, to me, a sign that he wants to be be in peace with the past, the best example being Dennis Stratton.
 
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fekso said:
Well you dont strike me a clever person
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I assure you I'm not!

harrisdevot said:
the band reporting sine die the already booked 2015 tour
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This is a somewhat similar situation, a key member having serious health problems with a possibility of being unable to perform permanently (*shudder*), and they didn't just replace Bruce with some american guy for the tour. They all showed respect and sympathy, unlike what happened to Brian Johnson
 
So many times in an interviews Janick had mentioned that he do not want the band to became a parody of themselves and Nicko said that he is planning going out while he still can perform at level, it was something of the sort: ''I can't imagine myself play Run to the Hills at the age of 70'' or something like that.
Before TBOS tour Bruce have said that if he can't give 100% of his singing/voice live, he would stop !

So I think that is the final lineup of Maiden...
 
Comparing two completely different bands like AC/DC and Iron Maiden doesn't make much sense.
Steve Harris looks like a much more reasonable guy than Angus.
Basically Angus just wants to keep playing and he doesn't give a shit about anything else, he's always been the "rock and roll will never die" kind of guy and he will keep on playing no matter what. His philosphy is very simple and that simplicity in their goals is what made AC/DC great for so long.

Iron Maiden are a much more philosophical kind of band, they have another take on their artistic life, much deeper than AC/DC if you ask me and I don't think they buy the "rock will live forever" kind of thing.
They wouldn't lose their integrity for the sake of keep on playing.
AC/DC given their philosphy was much more prone to doing that.
 
fekso said:
What kind of forum put trolls in a moderator position?
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fekso said:
Well you dont strike me a clever person so I dont know if basic math will do you any good
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fekso said:
Are you sure about that? I wish I had the insight you have ;) Let me know when your book comes out
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Think I have replied to a similar thread before, but I hope they will retire instead of replacing members, if they come in such a situation
 
fekso said:
Despite the fact that I like the Blaze material, don't you think the general crowd felt that Maiden lost their integrity for the sake of playing at that point?
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I get your point, but I find it pretty significant that Bruce has talked about Maiden being like a family; you don't always have to agree with each other about everything, but they're all part of the one mothership. This rhetoric has been pretty prominent in recent years, perhaps because of Bruce's cancer and all, and that kind of hints towards that they're all in this together or not at all - you can't replace a family member, so to speak, no matter whether you always like him or not.

I might be on the wrong tracks here and I respect different opinions. But, especially in the light of recent years, with every tour, every album and every single concert being kinda "sacred" and definitely not something you take for granted nowadays, I personally can't see them going on, should something terrible happen or just someone being unable to continue.
 
fekso said:
Despite the fact that I like the Blaze material, don't you think the general crowd felt that Maiden lost their integrity for the sake of playing at that point?
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Err...it's the opposite. Maiden showed integrity with The X Factor if you ask me. If there's any point in time, it's Fear Of The Dark, things like Wasting Love and From Here to Eternity, those videos look too much like the actual trendy videos in a time when Maiden weren't trendsetters in the genre.
 
Randalf said:
I get your point, but I find it pretty significant that Bruce has talked about Maiden being like a family; you don't always have to agree with each other about everything, but they're all part of the one mothership. This rhetoric has been pretty prominent in recent years, perhaps because of Bruce's cancer and all, and that kind of hints towards that they're all in this together or not at all - you can't replace a family member, so to speak, no matter whether you always like him or not.

I might be on the wrong tracks here and I respect different opinions. But, especially in the light of recent years, with every tour, every album and every single concert being kinda "sacred" and definitely not something you take for granted nowadays, I personally can't see them going on, should something terrible happen or just someone being unable to continue.
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Fair enough, but over history few bands have been so trigger happy when it comes to replacing members. Four line up changes between first four albums. Adrian was in many ways the key to success in the 80's and the band never thought twice about quitting in 89. Although when Bruce left they almost quit. I guess it would be hander now with such a long lasting lineup!
 
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harrisdevot said:
I was obviously talking about matters that have been publicly displayed. In my opinion, what they have done to Johnson is shocking and I know of no equivalent of that (look, I'm really cautious) by any of the bands you cited.
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The way Brian Johnson was treated was shocking. From the official press release in the band's website to all his luggage being unceremoniously delivered to his home, now that I think of it again, it was both shocking and disgusting...

Def Leppard waited years so Rick Allen could learn how to play with just one arm following his life changing accident. Iron Maiden cancelled a tour sine die to give Bruce time to recover from cancer. Angus Young did not waste time kicking Brian Johnson out of the band, someone who had given 36 years of his life to the band and just wanted some time to see if he could get better from his hearing problems.
 
fekso said:
Despite the fact that I like the Blaze material, don't you think the general crowd felt that Maiden lost their integrity for the sake of playing at that point?
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I don't think so, it was a completely different time in their lives. They were in their mid 30's.
I would have found it strange if they didn't want to keep on playing.
 
fekso said:
Despite the fact that I like the Blaze material, don't you think the general crowd felt that Maiden lost their integrity for the sake of playing at that point?
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Maiden would appear to have lost their integrity if they hired a Bruce clone and just toured off the back of the 80s output. Instead they hired the man they thought was right for the job, wrote and performed the music they were passionate about and played to their fans whether they numbered in the hundreds or the tens of thousands.
 
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