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Magnus

Pica Serdica
Anyone here into Strohmandeln and / or Kosakeln? There are some details re announcing and scoring I'm obviously too dumb to figure out from the Wiki articles.
 

wandy

Educated Fool
In my 41st year on Planet Earth, I've finally been told that I need to get glasses. If I want to get my pilot's medical certificate renewed, that is ...
You don't need glasses to fly a plane. Surely you can get a guide dog, who's been trained to fly a plane, to sit on your lap to fly it for you?
 
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wandy

Educated Fool
Anyone here into Strohmandeln and / or Kosakeln? There are some details re announcing and scoring I'm obviously too dumb to figure out from the Wiki articles.
Not sure about Strohmandein, but I do like Beef Stroganoff and chips. Does that help you out?
 

Kalata

Out of the Silent Planet
I respect your opinion. In my eyes, Virtual XI, as an album, is horrible. Futureal and The Clansman is very good, the rest - crap. Sorry.
I quoted you here because I don't want to go off-topic in the JP thread.

I respect every opinion, but ''crap songs''? No way. There are no ''crap songs'' in Maiden's discography. There are some underrated Maiden albums, but Virtual XI is the most underrated of them all imho. The album can't be horrible, the musical ideas speak for themselves (the melodies, the solos, the riffs, ''Futureal'', '' The Clansman'', the music of ''When Two Worlds Collide'', ''Como Estais Amigos'', the instrumental section of ''Don't Look To The Eyes Of A Stranger'' etc). Yeah, it's probably the Maiden album with the least sales, but the music is still strong. And Maiden stayed true to their style. The album contains some great lyrics too.

Why don't you like the other songs? You don't like Blaze's vocals or his performance? What about the music?

I suspect why you don't like ''The Angel And The Gambler'' and ''Don't Look To The Eyes Of A Stranger'' - because of the repetition. Without it, these are very good songs and I like them, especially the latter.
''Lightning Strikes Twice'' - fast rocker with a great moody intro, verses, riffs, drumming and solos. The chorus could have been better, but it's not bad. You probably don't like it? The build-up of the song is quite good.
''When Two Worlds Collide'' - now that's a gem for me. The song fits Blaze's voice and it has a galloping tempo, great intro, solos and amazing melodies. Maybe you don't like the chorus? I like it a lot.
''The Educated Fool'' - maybe you don't like the unusual pre-chorus? I like it, it's something different. The rest of the song is great imo (solos, melodies). I'm a fan of the chorus, it's really impactful.
''Come Estais Amigos'' - you don't like ballads? Everything is great in it imo (especially the intro and melodies). Maybe you don't like the way Blaze sings the chorus... ''no more teeeeeeeeears''? Btw, No More Tears is a good title for the song, but atypical for Maiden I guess.


I have no doubt that Steve can write a great (whole) album of its own. He's just like Kai Hansen. I want the two of the them to write a song together - it will probably be a 15 minutes long epic with lots of different melodies and tempo changes.
 

Azas

It Was a Dark and Stormy Night
Why don't you like the other songs? You don't like Blaze's vocals or his performance? What about the music?

I suspect why you don't like ''The Angel And The Gambler'' and ''Don't Look To The Eyes Of A Stranger'' - because of the repetition. Without it, these are very good songs and I like them, especially the latter.
''Lightning Strikes Twice'' - fast rocker with a great moody intro, verses, riffs, drumming and solos. The chorus could have been better, but it's not bad. You probably don't like it? The build-up of the song is quite good.
''When Two Worlds Collide'' - now that's a gem for me. The song fits Blaze's voice and it has a galloping tempo, great intro, solos and amazing melodies. Maybe you don't like the chorus? I like it a lot.
''The Educated Fool'' - maybe you don't like the unusual pre-chorus? I like it, it's something different. The rest of the song is great imo (solos, melodies). I'm a fan of the chorus, it's really impactful.
''Come Estais Amigos'' - you don't like ballads? Everything is great in it imo (especially the intro and melodies). Maybe you don't like the way Blaze sings the chorus... ''no more teeeeeeeeears''? Btw, No More Tears is a good title for the song, but atypical for Maiden I guess.

Nothing against Blaze, not him is the main problem. To my non english ears* album sounds utterly depressive and, overall, melodically I perceive it as a whining, if you know what I mean. Production is very bad, contributes very much to 'this is a soundtrack to depression and whining'. Futureal and the Clansman - very good/great. The Lightning Strikes Twice and When Two Worlds Collide to me is the epithome of whining. I perceive those songs as such, purely from melodics perspective. Don't Look to the Eyes of a Stranger has Great/Glorious instrumental section, but song as a whole is damaged/not great in my eyes. The Educated Fool and Como Estais Amigos falls in the same bland/depressive whining category for me. Ironically, The Angel and the Gambler may be repetitive but this song is one of the better on this album for me. So, as a complete body of work this album for me is :facepalm:
Especially, when Bruce at the time released great Accident of Birth. One of the main problems - Steve as a producer and he had no man to say to him 'this is too long, too repetitive' etc.

*I understand lyrics, but first and foremost I consume/perceive music by overall melody/rhythm of the songs.

And I am not bashing Maiden, this is simply my opinion. Around Virtual XI era Maiden was in grave danger, regarding band's future.

I can add that lyrics also contribute, in my eyes, to this is so bad.
When two worlds collide
The anger, the pain
Of those who remain
When two worlds collide
When two worlds collide
So who will survive
There's no place to hide
When two worlds collide

To me this looks very corny. Half aged men whining about end of the world. So, problem may be in presentation, point of view. I don't know.
 
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