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Forostar

Ancient Mariner
I despised this show. Hated it with every core of my being. In addition to pointless, useless blood and nudity, it is also completely wrong in most aspects.
I remember you complained about Game of Thrones, and mentioned some other fantasy series (books if I remember well) with more graphic erotics going on than in A Song of Ice and Fire (the books). I dunno. When people lean so much on sex in their writing, I wonder if they can produce excitement in other ways. Note: the GoT TV series has way more sex than the book (ASoIaF).
 
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Perun

After the war?
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Rome had a pretty high amount of sex and violence by the standards of 2005. But the envelope has been pushed much further since, and one of the series to do so was Spartacus.

Having said that, I think Rome was a pretty good series. Far from flawless, and certainly not a masterpiece, but it was enjoyable and engaging. It did a reasonably good job of dramatising history without doing any infuriating mistakes. For the most part, the sex and violence scenes had a purpose, either in terms of plot or in terms of characterisation. It was decently written and had some characters that I genuinely cared about, and it was also, for the most part, well-acted. It's biggest flaw was that it was too ambitious, and the writers had something much bigger in mind, as many of the subplots indicate. It could have been great had it been granted more than two seasons. But in general, behind the boobs and the blood-dripping daggers that dominate the series' general perception, there was actual substance to it.

I've only watched two or three episodes of Spartacus, so I may not be entirely fair in my assessment. But those episodes completely turned me off. It was horridly acted, it had blood for the sake of blood and tits for the sake of tits, and whatever shimmered through inbetween was intellectually appalling. The dialogue was corny, stupid and empty. It was dumb and cheesy and just made me angry. I didn't even bother to check on the historical accuracy, but judging from the two lines of actual dialogue and my admittedly limited background knowledge on the Spartacus revolt, they were pretty liberal with history.
 

Perun

After the war?
Staff member
:eek: I have to see this.
Which reminds me... there was this really terrible film about Vercingetorix with Christopher Lambert and Klaus Maria Brandauer which was filmed in Bulgaria. I remember reading a review about that which pointed out that one of the most ridiculous parts of it (next to Caesar's Viennese accent) was how the bored extras from the Bulgarian army shuffled over the battlefields. You're not going to tell me he was in that, too?
 

Forostar

Ancient Mariner
I suddenly remember that in London (Maidenfans meet 2011), we were briefly watching some TV in our hotel, and that we saw a fragment of Rome or Spartacus. Some fight in the streets, and at the end of it, someone pissed over the one who was laying on the ground.
 
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