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Sorry, I hadn't noticed this "tagged" message before. If you can find a good job in either place, you can't really go wrong. I like Austin and even considered moving there. But, I chose to stay in Southern California because it's awesome.

I've read bearfan's posts and I think he is seriously understating the weather differences. The weather in Austin is OK--winters are mild but do dip below freezing at times, and summers are unspeakably awful--whereas San Diego has arguably the best weather IN THE WORLD. Cool breezes in the summer, warm in the winter. I've found that living in nice weather makes a huge difference in quality of life. Generally, I would agree that San Diego is nicer the closer you are to the ocean, and as you go farther inland the weather is not as good and it gets hotter in the summer...but not TEXAS hot.

I also agree that housing is going to be a bit more expensive in San Diego, but I'm not convinced the difference will be that great. Austin is a hot real estate market (no pun intended) and housing prices and costs of living are higher there than anywhere else in Texas except North Dallas. What does a one-bedroom apartment near Old Town San Diego cost, as compared to a one-bedroom apartment near Sixth Street in Austin? Those are reasonably comparable neighborhoods. If you are renting, that weighs in favor of Texas financially, because Texas has no state income tax but Austin has outrageous property taxes. Cost of living is probably comparable otherwise, maybe slightly higher in CA, but salaries may be higher too. I also think being a single 40-something guy in San Diego would be a LOT of fun, less sure about Austin, which is a college town.

The weather in San Diego is great .. no doubt about it.

But the cost of living is not even close .. and if you are renting, who cares about property taxes?

Rent trend data in San Diego, California. San Diego Average Rent. As of April, 2014, average apartment rent within 10 miles of San Diego, CA is$1683. One bedroom apartments in San Diego rent for $1389 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $1752.

Rent trend data in Austin, Texas. Austin Average Rent. As of April, 2014, average apartment rent within 10 miles of Austin, TX is $1147. One bedroom apartments in Austin rent for $984 a month on average and two bedroom apartment rents average $1219.


That is about $6K a year just in rent ...

From an article about the minimum wage, but it reflects the overall cost of living difference

"Wages mean nothing without the context of cost of living. California has the fourth-highest cost of living in the nation at 132 percent of the national average. Texas has the second-lowest cost of living at 90 percent. Thus, California's $8 minimum wage can buy $6.06 of goods and services while Texas' $7.25 minimum wage can buy the equivalent of $8.04."


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Like I said, San Diego is a nice place to live all things being equal, but you really pay for it. It pretty much comes down to what do you value more, nice weather or money
 
if you are renting, who cares about property taxes?
That was my point -- Texas offsets no income tax with ridiculously high property taxes. If you are renting, that strongly favors Texas, because you get the benefit of not having to pay additional income tax, without the offsetting increase in property taxes (though those are no doubt baked into the rent). If you want to buy a home or condo, property taxes make a big difference and need to be factored in.

I think the "within 10 miles" metric may be deceiving. The thing to look at is what an apartment costs downtown, or close to where you'd be working, or in other nice areas where you actually would want to live. Those are more pertinent comps. I don't know the answer, but Wasted can probably find out fairly easily with a couple hours' (or less) worth of research. I also think the Texas vs. California cost of living is misleading -- you really need to compare the cities. Again, Austin is a trendy place with a lot of wealthy people, so that will drive prices up relative to the rest of Texas. I expect San Diego will be more expensive, but not astronomically so. Ironically, a lot of people have moved from LA to Austin in recent years in search of lower housing and other costs, which has had the effect of driving up those costs.

Bearfan's ultimate conclusion is correct: The tradeoff is up to each individual and his/her lifestyle preferences and budget. More desirable places will obviously cost more -- lots of people want to live there, and high demand = high prices. San Diego is more expensive than Austin precisely because more people think it is more desirable.

Wasted, assuming you can afford both, it's really just a lifestyle choice. Both cities have a vibrant nightlife and good tech jobs. Both have very attractive women. Austin has a better music scene and Tex-Mex food; San Diego has better weather and real Mexican food, with a more laid-back beach culture in some areas. It's up to you.

EDIT: One last parting shot. If you feel drawn toward the ocean, you are not alone:
Call me Ishmael. Some years ago—never mind how long precisely—having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people’s hats off—then, I account it high time to get to sea as soon as I can. This is my substitute for pistol and ball. With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship. There is nothing surprising in this. If they but knew it, almost all men in their degree, some time or other, cherish very nearly the same feelings towards the ocean with me.

There now is your insular city of the Manhattoes, belted round by wharves as Indian isles by coral reefs—commerce surrounds it with her surf. Right and left, the streets take you waterward. Its extreme downtown is the battery, where that noble mole is washed by waves, and cooled by breezes, which a few hours previous were out of sight of land. Look at the crowds of water-gazers there.

Circumambulate the city of a dreamy Sabbath afternoon. Go from Corlears Hook to Coenties Slip, and from thence, by Whitehall, northward. What do you see?—Posted like silent sentinels all around the town, stand thousands upon thousands of mortal men fixed in ocean reveries. Some leaning against the spiles; some seated upon the pier-heads; some looking over the bulwarks of ships from China; some high aloft in the rigging, as if striving to get a still better seaward peep. But these are all landsmen; of week days pent up in lath and plaster—tied to counters, nailed to benches, clinched to desks. How then is this? Are the green fields gone? What do they here?

But look! here come more crowds, pacing straight for the water, and seemingly bound for a dive. Strange! Nothing will content them but the extremest limit of the land; loitering under the shady lee of yonder warehouses will not suffice. No. They must get just as nigh the water as they possibly can without falling in. And there they stand—miles of them—leagues. Inlanders all, they come from lanes and alleys, streets avenues—north, east, south, and west. Yet here they all unite. Tell me, does the magnetic virtue of the needles of the compasses of all those ships attract them thither?

Once more. Say you are in the country; in some high land of lakes. Take almost any path you please, and ten to one it carries you down in a dale, and leaves you there by a pool in the stream. There is magic in it. Let the most absent-minded of men be plunged in his deepest reveries—stand that man on his legs, set his feet a-going, and he will infallibly lead you to water, if water there be in all that region. Should you ever be athirst in the great American desert, try this experiment, if your caravan happen to be supplied with a metaphysical professor. Yes, as every one knows, meditation and water are wedded for ever.

But here is an artist. He desires to paint you the dreamiest, shadiest, quietest, most enchanting bit of romantic landscape in all the valley of the Saco. What is the chief element he employs? There stand his trees, each with a hollow trunk, as if a hermit and a crucifix were within; and here sleeps his meadow, and there sleep his cattle; and up from yonder cottage goes a sleepy smoke. Deep into distant woodlands winds a mazy way, reaching to overlapping spurs of mountains bathed in their hill-side blue. But though the picture lies thus tranced, and though this pine-tree shakes down its sighs like leaves upon this shepherd’s head, yet all were vain, unless the shepherd’s eye were fixed upon the magic stream before him. Go visit the Prairies in June, when for scores on scores of miles you wade knee-deep among Tiger-lilies—what is the one charm wanting?—Water—there is not a drop of water there! Were Niagara but a cataract of sand, would you travel your thousand miles to see it? Why did the poor poet of Tennessee, upon suddenly receiving two handfuls of silver, deliberate whether to buy him a coat, which he sadly needed, or invest his money in a pedestrian trip to Rockaway Beach? Why is almost every robust healthy boy with a robust healthy soul in him, at some time or other crazy to go to sea? Why upon your first voyage as a passenger, did you yourself feel such a mystical vibration, when first told that you and your ship were now out of sight of land? Why did the old Persians hold the sea holy? Why did the Greeks give it a separate deity, and own brother of Jove? Surely all this is not without meaning. And still deeper the meaning of that story of Narcissus, who because he could not grasp the tormenting, mild image he saw in the fountain, plunged into it and was drowned. But that same image, we ourselves see in all rivers and oceans. It is the image of the ungraspable phantom of life; and this is the key to it all.
- Melville, Moby-Dick
 
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Yeah .. California Mexican is better .... though at least here (near Dallas), there has been a surge of CA Mexican lately. A lot depends on where you want to live ... I look at where my Dad lives and where I live .. my house is twice as big and I have a pool, but half the cost. So that does affect the property taxes, yes ours are 2% ... but they are 2% of a much lower amount. I am also not sure how much longer you can count on Property Taxes being low in CA, a lot of that is due to Prop 13, which a sizable part of the state government as it exists today wishes did not exist.

Part of it comes down to being able to see wanting to live in areas surrounding Austin (or Dallas or Houston for that matter) ... but if I could not afford to live in a desirable spot in San Diego near the water, I sure as hell would not want to live in El Cajon, La Mesa, Santee, Vista, (God forbid) Lakeside, etc.

I moved from California (last stop there was Santa Rosa, but prior to that San Diego) almost 10 years ago now ... I do not regret it, because I know I would not have been able to take 5 Euro vacations, 10+ US vacations, 1 Canadian vacation , in that time if I was still in my same house out there paying the same taxes, gas, car registration, etc. But travelling is of importance to me, might not be to others .. and those trips are the tangible benefit I get from living in Texas and staying in the air conditioning as much as possible during the summer.
 
Yeah .. California Mexican is better .... though at least here (near Dallas), there has been a surge of CA Mexican lately.

Has nothing to do with the debate, but Arizona Mexican food takes the cake. I've lived in LA, ventured to many off-the-beaten-path places south of the city, and it's good food, but holy crap Tucson wins. I don't even like Arizona, but damn do they have good Mexican food. Tex-Mex does not count.

Crap, now I want Mexican food.
 
I doubt the remastered albums will be significantly different to those currently available. It's just the bonus material that's going to be new, and I don't see why that can't be released in an extra box set. Why would I want to buy all the albums again?
 
I bought Led Zeppelin 3 (somewhere along the lines, I lost that one) ... but for the rest, I already have them and they sound good.
 
Eh, I'll pass. I spent all my money on Led Zeppelin when I was a teenager, no need to do that again.
 
With so many bands doing this, it is just impossible (financially) to buy everything I would want. If Maiden did something like this, I would be all over it (instead of the stupid picture discs they did) ... other bands, maybe pick and choose and album here or there. I don't want my music to turn into Star Wars ... where I think I own (or have owned) 10 different versions of the original trilogy.

There's also two LP's with that and a 88 page hardback book....Gotta have it.

That is the version of III I pre-ordered (at least the 2LP version .. not sure if there is a book). If it is super extra fantastic, I might buy another one or two.
 
With so many bands doing this, it is just impossible (financially) to buy everything I would want. If Maiden did something like this, I would be all over it (instead of the stupid picture discs they did) ...

I've contemplated many times picking up those vinyls, but then when I look at them they do seem like a rip-off...but well, they're released to commemorate/cash-in on the current tour...maybe perhaps sometime we'll get something that does the original albums justice :)
 
If Maiden were to do it, I would want to see something like the Zeppelin albums (demos, unreleased live stuff,books, notes about the making of, etc). To just re-purchase the same music again, I'll pass again. I did buy a few of the Kiss re-rleases on vinyl, but I only got Revenge (the original version is hard to find and expensive, Psycho Circus (never released officially on vinyl), and Hotter than Hell (one of my favorites and I read reviews that this is the best it has sounded .. which is true), thinking about Carnival of Souls ... but that is it out of the 30-ish albums they are releasing that I will buy
 
I really wish Maiden would do a proper re-issue of their albums again. The more I listen to the original vinyl and the Black Triangle CDs, the more I think the 1998 remasters we have now are terrible. The reissue was great for its time, with the multimedia section and what not... perfectly worth their money ten years ago. But most computers won't play the multimedia properly anymore, so what you have left is a bunch of poorly done remasters. I'm all for a new re-issue of the Black Triangle remasters, with the albums left as they were and a couple of extra CDs with the obligatory bonus material.
 
It'd be cool if they reissued those 1995 editions that had bonus CD's, and also the new albums in the same style. CD 1 - remaster; CD 2 - bonuses.
 
Agree there Perun. The 1998 remasters are terribly outdated...

Most of their albums have run into 30th anniversaries by now, Powerslave 30th anniversary was last month, yet the only thing really released to celebrate that was a new figure from NECA, what about releasing some 30th anniversary deluxe editions of the albums? Like bearfan says with books, notes about the recording, etc etc...
 
I pretty much expect that if they are going to do a big re-release, it would be during or right after a farewell tour. But, I am happy to wait if the end result is something that sounds good and has cool (ideally at least some new/not previously released) bonus stuff.
 
Yeah...I would be happy with just studio outtakes really and different takes....I wonder if Martin Birch/Maiden has many of them lying around...

For example..I woulden't mind hearing different attempts at The Number of The Beast , now that we know that Maiden/Bruce/Birch tried many times to nail the scream in the final version.
 
Yeah .. stuff like that and there has to be a fair amount of live audio laying around. All the AMOLAD songs live would make for a nice bonus disc ... and to date nothing live from that album has been officially released.
 
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