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In 1990-2000, Microsoft climbed to the top of the tower. The release of Windows 98 was the crowning achievement for them.

However, they seemed to think they could ignore the way things were changing. Enter Jobs and his dedication to consumer electronics. Microsoft is now diversifying into fields they can't compete in (Zune) or where they can never dominate (consoles) in order to stay relevant.

Apple, earlier this year, passed Microsoft to become the largest tech company in the world. If you had invested $10,000 in Apple in 1997, you'd be worth around $200,000,000 today.

Google is the only company left that can hope to challenge Apple. Pretty cool times we live in - 3 years ago they were all buddy-buddy, but now the chips are down.
 
Interesting read.

LooseCannon said:
However, they seemed to think they could ignore the way things were changing. Enter Jobs and his dedication to consumer electronics.

Jobs did a great job. But while his commercial big hit was the successful gadgets, he brought something new* in Apple, as Zare explained in an old topic:

Zare said:
Perun shouldn't care about insights of configuration systems like registry or /etc tree, but Perun should care how his operating system behaves. Windows becomes sluggish over time, especially for end-users that like to install new software / games. MacOSX doesn't. That's the end-user experience.

So there's pro-Mac argument that you should listen to. I can also try to debunk other myths if you have any. Just to be on the clear side, i hate Microsoft and i don't like Apple much, either. Former crippled computer industry permanently, latter is trying to make fashion out of it. But i am also objective in this discussion.

You probably don't want to understand, but i'll try explaining anyway. There's MacOS and there's MacOSX. MacOS is old Apple operating system, alike Windows 95, operating system on Commodore Amiga and such. Steve Jobs left Apple and created a company called NeXT, to produce high-end computers. First web server, first web page ever served ran on NeXTcube (one of their models). UNIX is a type of operating system created in the seventies to power first computer networks and to fulfill the needs of multitasking and multiuser computing (and that same multitasking and multiuser was advertised as one of the strengths of Windows XP in 2001, seventies-legacy technology...). BSD is one type of UNIX created on Berkeley University (Berkeley Software Distribution). Mach is the type of operating system kernel (the main core of the system) designed in mind of controlling many different, but still critical tasks. In layman's terms, it was designed to be ultra-responsive.

BSD UNIX is a rock solid operating system marvel which basically invented the implementation of Internet, invented the critical data-serving operations, and still powers the Internet today and pushes the limits. So Steve Jobs' NeXT system blended BSD and Mach, to achieve ultimate stability and responsiveness. He succeeded.

Years after, he returned basically to save Apple. They used old MacOS graphical user interface with the NeXT system core to create MacOSX. Therefore, MacOSX is your friendly fancy Apple MacOS shell with one hell of a kernel beneath it.

*I feel that today, something similar must happen, something new, cause it seems to me that Apple relying to its victory as Microsoft did years ago.

LooseCannon said:
Apple, earlier this year, passed Microsoft to become the largest tech company in the world. If you had invested $10,000 in Apple in 1997, you'd be worth around $200,000,000 today.

Phew!  :)

LooseCannon said:
Google is the only company left that can hope to challenge Apple. Pretty cool times we live in - 3 years ago they were all buddy-buddy, but now the chips are down.

Right. Google seems to have caught the spirit of the age: Open Source. Linux are a must for the programmers today, as Mac was for the designers /sound engineers the last decade. Apple needs a really inspiring idea to overcome this. i-pods /pads /phones are not enough.
 
LooseCannon said:
In 1990-2000, Microsoft climbed to the top of the tower. The release of Windows 98 was the crowning achievement for them.

However, they seemed to think they could ignore the way things were changing. Enter Jobs and his dedication to consumer electronics. Microsoft is now diversifying into fields they can't compete in (Zune) or where they can never dominate (consoles) in order to stay relevant.

Apple, earlier this year, passed Microsoft to become the largest tech company in the world. If you had invested $10,000 in Apple in 1997, you'd be worth around $200,000,000 today.

Google is the only company left that can hope to challenge Apple. Pretty cool times we live in - 3 years ago they were all buddy-buddy, but now the chips are down.

And now Steve Jobs is doing what everybody accused Bill Gates of: Trying to take over the world.
 
LooseCannon said:
Google is the only company left that can hope to challenge Apple.

Rather: Apple is the only company left that can hope to challenge Google.

Google rules the world on many digital fronts.
 
WTF? I never said that...  :huh:

Anyway, I just found out that I witnessed in person what will apparently become a landmark in heavy metal history.

I knew it was a special gig when I was there, but obviously I had no idea how special it actually became to be.
 
Forostar said:
Rather: Apple is the only company left that can hope to challenge Google.

Google rules the world on many digital fronts.

Google rules the internet on search engine, but they can't hold a candle to Apple in terms of consumer goods, which is where the battle will be fought. Google also has failed recently in several fronts, like Google Buzz, which was a huge flop at an attempt to replace Facebook.
 
Forostar said:
That special indeed Per!

I'm actually quite psyched about the fact that what was one of the most magical moments in my life is now preserved forever.
 
LooseCannon said:
Google rules the internet on search engine, but they can't hold a candle to Apple in terms of consumer goods, which is where the battle will be fought. Google also has failed recently in several fronts, like Google Buzz, which was a huge flop at an attempt to replace Facebook.

Google does more. Look what they're doing in the information sector / libraries / books / e-readers. Scanning publications etc. It's just a way larger company, being busy on more fronts than Apple.
 
Google does a lot; Apple has markets cornered. That's the difference between the two - Google has a lot of hands in many pies, Apple is doing a few things exceptionally well (music distribution, portable music players, smartphones, and whatever the hell the iPad is). Google is trying to butt into established markets (phones, OS, etc).

Apple has no interest taking on Google's power with libraries and the like. They are gonna fight on putting purchasing in your pocket. Just like Apple had no interest fighting Microsoft on the PC market, and they went a different way about it.
 
I heard a google story, but probably won't have it quite correct...  I think  it was motorola that had some sort of gps tracker that google liked, so google made one like it, told motorola that they couldn't put it on their phone if they wanted to sell it as a google phone.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aovaRsVV28

Kinda funny....
 
Just to make people hungry:

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Three lovely trouts, bathing in butter in the frying pan ... I certainly get hungry from seeing that. No fish can beat the trout you catch yourself and put in the pan ASAP.

Once I and a friend were out on a 5-day hiking trip, and one evening we had 4 of those for dinner, along with some home-made lefse that his mother had sent with us. Simple, but still a great meal.
 
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