katatoniq
Invader
Sadly I think anyone capable of bringing race into something totally unrelated to race has plenty going on under the surface.
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Sadly I think anyone capable of bringing race into something totally unrelated to race has plenty going on under the surface.
Trevoire
Ancient Mariner
I'm Scottish and wouldn't give a shit if Bruce called someone acting like a twat at a gig a Scottish cunt.
He's said something in the heat of the moment, in the middle of a gig, adrenaline going, and getting pissed off with the flares. Flares that have caused him problems in the past.
He doesn't have the luxury of sitting at a keyboard thinking about what to say without offending someone.
He's said something in the heat of the moment, in the middle of a gig, adrenaline going, and getting pissed off with the flares. Flares that have caused him problems in the past.
He doesn't have the luxury of sitting at a keyboard thinking about what to say without offending someone.
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Revelationer
Educated Fool
I mean, why not? He offended them. Sarcasm.
katatoniq
Invader
Again, you can talk all you like about luxuries of sitting at a keyboard thinking about the least offensive way to tell someone to get fucked but the first thing he thought of was a pejorative about sucking dick as though it's insulting.
The second thing he thought of was bringing race into an issue totally unrelated to race.
giratina
Educated Fool
IMO It's not the same because it was a different era back then when the bombing occured. If Maiden make fun of bad things happening in this era in your country then it is understandable that you should be offended.
Also I do not think that Bruce is absolutely racist or feels superior to people from other countries, maybe it was just a wrong step while angry, but he should not have said it anyway.
At Wacken in 2008, Bruce had a go at a camera man who obstructed his view and called him something to the effect of a fat arsehole. I don't recall the exact slur, but I know that "fat" was part of it. I was overweight then to the point that I saw myself as fat, and am more so now. By the logic being developed here, I should have felt mortally offended. Yet, after the gig I talked to a mate who brought it up himself and said Bruce was being a bit personal towards the cameraman. We both agreed on this, but neither of us felt that Bruce was having a go at all fat people. Should I have taken to the keyboards back then instead to say how much I am offended and that Bruce should apologise to me?
Maybe he shouldn't have said it, but maybe that cunt shouldn't have suffocated him with his stupid flare to begin with!
Maybe he shouldn't have said it, but maybe that cunt shouldn't have suffocated him with his stupid flare to begin with!
Dick Brucinson
The TRUE Dick Brucinson
Probably they all already know his upcoming solo album is super good
katatoniq
Invader
Did you ever meet Bruce? You realise that he would judge you differently because of your weight, right? Should he? Maybe. But because of your race? Never.
As for the "suffocation" -- here's a pic of me last night right next to a dude with a flare and I don't even notice it whatsoever.
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I agree it's not the same, but there's something about the fact that my nationality takes place in wide areas of popular culture, including Maiden, only in the context of the terrible things we did, even though the last person I knew who was alive at the time died fourteen years ago. All I hear about my country from Maiden is either how we tried to eradicate their little island or how they backed by nothing but the strength of their own resolve laid waste to us. I'm not taking offence at that, I knew this from the very first moment I heard Maiden, I'm just saying I can't really understand how someone gets whiny about Bruce calling someone a "Greek" cunt when they also have a song about the glorious warrior Alexander and how he changed the course of world history for the better.
Would he? How do you know that?
Yes, because he was holding it above your head with the smoke drifting above you, while Bruce was also standing higher than you and had the smoke fly in his face. Do I really have to point this out to you?
katatoniq
Invader
Were you there dude? The wind was going in the exact opposite direction. Watch some videos from any song during the show. There's flares the entire time. The smoke was flowing up and to the back of the stadium all night. None of the other members of the band were "suffocating".
I'm wondering if there's something Oedipal about this. The moment the artist you idolise shows some sort of weakness or reminds you they are nothing more than human, they need to be destroyed because they can no longer give you guidance.
No, I wasn't there, fair point. But I do see a damn lot of smoke on the right half towards the stage at the start of the song in this video from c. 0:37 on), and I have my doubts it's from the onstage pyros:
Dick Brucinson
The TRUE Dick Brucinson
It's a bit ridiculous: I'm at work today, and the PC I'm using here has no ad blocker on. I constantly keep on receiving advertising and commercials about living room fireworks and pyro stuff for home use 
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So now you are being heightist?
katatoniq
Invader
Promise you mate, I was there, this is not scientifically possible. Check videos from the stands to the sides.
So what's the smoke I see there in the video?
The Red and the Black
Ancient Mariner
Gonna cry, just move along.
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