IRON MAIDEN ALBUMS SURVIVOR: POWERSLAVE WINS

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ghkghk said:
I think that he likes them the same way other people does.
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Nope. Let's not fool ourselves. He and you speak negative about some old songs while some others honestly like these. Can't help it when people don't appreciate those songs. I can only say why I like them.
 
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I'm beginning to understand tactical voting in these games. This was the first time I voted for 3 albums (usually just one). I wouldn't put TBOS out next but my vote may well help it happen.

RE Nostalgia Camp. I resent being termed so, just cos I/we like something that's old doesn't mean I/we are blinded by nostalgia. To suggest so seems like some kind of reverse snobbery, some kind of post-modern Anti-Play Classics Peoples Front. Of Judea. And even at that, why shouldn't nostalgia play some part? We aren't analysing data, we'er listening to music. Well, I am anyway. I enjoy the so-called weaker points of some of the albums mentioned (Invaders, Gangland, QFF) and if part of that enjoyment is enhanced by fond memories of the album as a whole, well so what? To me, an album is 'better' than another if I prefer listening to it and how I come to that conclusion is based on more than simply giving each tune a cold, calculating mark out of 10 (not criticising the album/song rating threads on here).

I happen to think TBOS is better than SiT and that PoM is better than them both. What am I most likely to put on these days? The new one. Which era of the band do I like the most at the minute? Reunion. If I picked a top 10 of pre and post reunion, which do I think would have the better tunes over all? Pre. In six months time, could all these answers be different? Absofuckinloutely.
 
Niall Kielt said:
RE Nostalgia Camp. I resent being termed so, just cos I/we like something that's old doesn't mean I/we are blinded by nostalgia. To suggest so seems like some kind of reverse snobbery, some kind of post-modern Anti-Play Classics Peoples Front. Of Judea.
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For me at least, this isn't about the tastes of individual people.
It's a general observation that "most people" seem to think Gangland and Invaders are shiite and Run to the Hills is meh at best.
That's 3/8s of the album, yet "most people" also think the album is amazing.
 
Mosh said:
TBOS has at least one song that's worse than anything Maiden ever recorded in the 80s.
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What?

Man Of Sorrows is probably my least favourite from TBOS, and it's much better than a few songs from Killers, NOTB and PoM.
 
Shadows of the Valley and maybe When the River Runs Deep. I consider the "filler" tracks on the 80s albums better than these two songs.

Re NOTB: I don't think the album is amazing, it's definitely my least favorite of the remaining albums.

The whole "bias" thing that keeps coming up in these games is ridiculous.
 
It is a contender for my least favorite reunion era track. Definitely worst song of the last three albums.
 
Niall Kielt said:
I'm beginning to understand tactical voting in these games. This was the first time I voted for 3 albums (usually just one). I wouldn't put TBOS out next but my vote may well help it happen.

RE Nostalgia Camp. I resent being termed so, just cos I/we like something that's old doesn't mean I/we are blinded by nostalgia. To suggest so seems like some kind of reverse snobbery, some kind of post-modern Anti-Play Classics Peoples Front. Of Judea. And even at that, why shouldn't nostalgia play some part? We aren't analysing data, we'er listening to music. Well, I am anyway. I enjoy the so-called weaker points of some of the albums mentioned (Invaders, Gangland, QFF) and if part of that enjoyment is enhanced by fond memories of the album as a whole, well so what? To me, an album is 'better' than another if I prefer listening to it and how I come to that conclusion is based on more than simply giving each tune a cold, calculating mark out of 10 (not criticising the album/song rating threads on here).

I happen to think TBOS is better than SiT and that PoM is better than them both. What am I most likely to put on these days? The new one. Which era of the band do I like the most at the minute? Reunion. If I picked a top 10 of pre and post reunion, which do I think would have the better tunes over all? Pre. In six months time, could all these answers be different? Absofuckinloutely.
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Of course it's legit but:

if part of that enjoyment is enhancedby fond memories of the album as a whole, well sowhat?

Makes it tougher and even unfair to reunion albums. If I don't try to take that aside, I could equally say that Short Circuit is a better movie than Million Dolar Baby. I saw the former 50 times, dreamt of it and knew the whole script... when I was 6. The latter, I saw it once, thought it was great... and that's it.

You ask me, what movie would you like to see tonight? I might say Short Circuit.

Which film is better? Million dolar baby.

Invaders is metal's Short Circuit :)
 
I'm not saying it's bad, but anyone putting NOTB among his top 5 albums is only doing so out of blind nostalgia. That album doesn't hold a candle to most 80's, 90's and reunion material.
 
JudasMyGuide said:
I'm not saying it's bad, but anyone putting NOTB among his top 5 albums is only doing so out of blind nostalgia. That album doesn't hold a candle to most 80's, 90's and reunion material.
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Why is it so far fetched that some people actually like it?
 
@ghkghk I like your film analogy and agree to a point. Dont get me wrong, nostalgia ain't always a deciding factor. For example, I think NOTB is a better album than DoD (I'd rather listen to the former) but Paschendale and DoD are better songs than pretty much everything on NOTB.

@MrKnickerbocker fair enough, Id be all for a set featuring all deep cuts or all non-80s tunes or if they only played songs from the most recent 3 albums, I'd love it in fact but the classics are, well, classic. I fully support the new stuff at all times and berate any Play-Classics folke that I meet at gigs but the 80s stuff is still great and it sometimes feels like people like to scoff at the likes of RttH just to act cool. Not saying you're doin that but sometimes I get that impression from some posts.

@JudasMyGuide blind nostalgia my balls, an album that has Prisoner, Children, RttH, NOTB and Hallowed pishes all over the 90s except for The X Factor. From the 3 other 90s albums its a struggle to find 5 songs to match those 5 listed above. Well, ok, I just thought of 6 or 7 but thats across three albums.

And nothing from TBOS is as bad as Age of Innocence.
 
While reunion albums are very good, I can compile a list of 'cons' for every album and each song from it. There are exclusions, like The Man Of Sorrows, Out Of The Shadows, maybe The Wicker Man too.
Somewhere In Time has no flaws as an album and just one song has a flaw of bad lyrics. It's hard to compare.
 
SiT and AMOLAD are the most divisive albums for me, each for different reasons. Both can seem flat at times and at other times I totally love 'em.
 
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