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If Eternity Should Fail

Discussion in 'The Book of Souls' started by SinisterMinisterX, Aug 22, 2015.

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How good is If Eternity Should Fail on a scale of 1-10?

  1. 10

    35.1%
  2. 9

    45.6%
  3. 8

    14.0%
  4. 7

    3.5%
  5. 6

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. 5

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 4

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  10. 1

    1.8%
  1. stallan

    stallan Trooper

    The more I listen to this song the more I feel it has become one of my favourite all time Maiden songs. Every little thing about this song feels perfect to me.
     
  2. RBK

    RBK Prowler

    Great song, one of the best in the album. Continued Maiden's tradition of having a strong opener. Would like this one to be the concert opener as well.
    Inspired by Z above, my top album openers ranked from top to bottom are:

    Aces High
    The Wicker Man
    Prowler
    Caught Somewhere In Time
    Moonchild
    Where Eagles Dare
    Be Quick Or Be Dead
    Futureal
    If Eternity Should Fail
    Different World
    Sign Of The Cross
    Tailgunner
    Satellite 15...The Final Frontier
    The Ides Of March
    Wildest Dreams
    Invaders
     
  3. TheSpectreWithin

    TheSpectreWithin Pirate of the Undergorund

    This has now cracked my top 5 Maiden album openers, beating out Moonchild. I hope they start the show with it for this tour.

    Caught Somewhere in Time
    Sign of the Cross
    Aces High
    Where Eagles Dare
    If Eternity Should Fail
    Moonchild
    The Wicker Man
    Be Quick or Be Dead
    Futureal
    Tailgunner
    Different World
    Prowler
    Invaders
    Ides of March
    Wildest Dreams
    Satellite 15...The Final Frontier
     
  4. ironbaz

    ironbaz Nomad

    Is this song tuned down?
     
  5. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

    Yes, drop D for all guitars.
     
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  6. 2Mins

    2Mins Educated Fool

    That pick slide back into the chorus after the mid-section is a highlight of the whole album for me. I bet it's H.
     
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  7. Good mid tempo song.
    I've recently chopped the intro and the outro off though, the song doesn't miss them. They were interesting on the first few listens and perhaps the intro makes some sense if I listen to the album in sequence order and if I haven't listened to the album for a while, but with the frequency I'm listening to this album, I prefer to take them off.

    Overall the song is good, but it isn't the defining highlight of the album. Can't expect them all to be.
     
  8. Check the Declination!

    Check the Declination! Working on my PHD in Maiden

    I love the instrumental portion of this song, especially when Nicko clangs it up on the second go round. Wish there was some way they could've made it longer. Rest of song decent but unremarkable (for Maiden, that is). As for the weird intro & outro......not big on the intro, but Necropolis alright.
     
  9. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    I think I can say by now with some certainty that this song has my favourite chorus in the Maiden discography.
     
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  10. eddienephwrack

    eddienephwrack Invader

    Moonchild
    Aces High
    Be Quick or Be Dead
    The Wicker Man
    Caught Somewhere in Time
    Sign of the Cross
    Invaders
    Ides of March
    Where Eagles Dare
    Satellite 15...The Final Frontier
    Prowler
    If Eternity Should Fail
    Different World
    Tailgunner
    Futureal
    Wildest Dreams
     
  11. eddienephwrack

    eddienephwrack Invader

    I like pretty much everything in this song, and think it's one of the strongest tracks on the album. My only gripe is the spoken word outro really makes it sound like it was originally written for a Bruce solo album (which I understand it was), and sounds a bit incongruous on a Maiden album
     
  12. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Prowler

    If they had skipped the outro I would have rated it a 10.
    Abide with pain
    Devastation, despair
    And that chorus, that glorious powerful chorus
    Easily one of my favorites, not just on this album either.
     
  13. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    This song is by far the most amazing and dramatic Maiden has ever done. Taking a bit from Satellite 15, the intro really refines what they were trying to do there. It's much more clean and atmospheric. Then instead of going into a generic rocker, we get something a bit different. There isn't a single negative thing I can say about this song. The riffs are crushing and Bruce delivers an epic performance. The chorus is also among Maiden's best. The instrumental section here is also very unique, mostly due to there being no solos. Instead we get a bit of call and response with the guitars and bass. The recap of the main twin riffs and the intro synth melody works really well as a climax too.

    The outro seems to be a bit of a controversy but I personally love it. I don't really care that the Necropolis bit has nothing to do with the rest of the album, why can't he be a character within this song? Doesn't seem any different than Benjamin Breeg or any time Maiden has written a song that tells a story. It still does an excellent job of setting up the mood for the album.

    10
     
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  14. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    EDIT:
    The following was already discovered by Sixes, last August:
    http://forum.maidenfans.com/threads...ins-album-spoilers.31236/page-132#post-527386

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    From Strange Tales #138, a 1965 Marvel comic:

    https://ditkocultist.wordpress.com/2011/10/25/marvel-strange-tales-138-if-eternity-should-fail/


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    Synopsis for "If Eternity Should Fail!"
    Traveling to Eternity's realm, Dr. Strange comes face to face with the living embodiment of Eternity. Strange asks the being to grant him with the power to defeat Dormammu and save his master, however after much consideration Eternity decrees that Strange needs no additional power, as he has the means to defeat Dormammu on his own.
    Traveling back to Earth's dimension, Dr. Strange learns that Baron Mordo had kidnapped the unconscious body of the Ancient One and transported him to the Dark Dimension and is now being held hostage along with Clea. Strange is then told to duel Mordo for their freedom.




    Appearing in "If Eternity Should Fail!"

    Featured Characters:
    • [​IMG] Dr. Strange [​IMG]
    Supporting Characters:
    • [​IMG] Ancient One [​IMG]
    • [​IMG] Clea [​IMG]
    Villains:
    • [​IMG] Baron Mordo [​IMG]
    • [​IMG] Dormammu [​IMG]
    Other Characters:
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    Last edited: Apr 9, 2016
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  15. MrKnickerbocker

    MrKnickerbocker clap hands

    Very interesting! Based on that description it seems like Bruce borrowed the title, but not necessarily the story.
     
  16. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Yeah I guess so too. Funny to think of a character Eternity, like this one.
     
  17. MrKnickerbocker

    MrKnickerbocker clap hands

    Looks and sounds a little like Gaiman's Sandman, actually.
     
  18. Brigantium

    Brigantium Work Geordie for hire Staff Member

    I wonder how much (if any) inspiration Bruce took from it for his own story, though? The title surely came from this comic, it's too much coincidence.
     
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  19. Travis The Dragon

    Travis The Dragon The dreamers may die, but the dreams live on.

  20. mckindog

    mckindog Living for Sanctuary from the law Staff Member

    The intro is perfect. Huge, mysterious — maybe the best intro the band has ever done.
    Bruce sounds magnificent and the lyric is so evocative and laden with images.
    "Here is the soul of a man..."
    "...black dog in the ruins is howling my name"

    Great stuff.
    Love the little rattlesnake bits of percussion slithering through the mix.
    Chills

    I rather like the outro too.
    The acoustic guitar is somber and contemplative — something bad has happened and its import is slowly starting to seep in. Very Heaven and Hell
    The multi-tracked vocals are suitably creepy.

    In between, we get something that is quite good, but — and I am surprised to see it not remarked upon much here — musically kind of ordinary.
    The Maiden gallop is pulled back to a canter. The rhythm section is tight, well-behaved and rather samey throughout. The guitar hooks rather simple, the instrumental break rather Maiden-by-the-numbers. Again though, the touches — the rolling drums to bracket the instrumental, the pick slide as they kick back into the chorus, the licks dancing around the final chorus — so tastefully and precisely done.

    The thing is, the band can get away with pulling its punches because the composition is so strong.
    The melodies are powerful and memorable, the pacing is excellent and the atmosphere...somehow bleak and grand at the same time.
    It's exactly in Bruce's wheelhouse, and he delivers so well.
    I'm going to compare this song to Revelations in that the mood and the melody render the lack of musical adventurousness moot.
     
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