It is always possible to appreciate the contributions from other band members but still feel that without Adrian Smith the band is not at the same level of greatness, isn't it?
The guitar sound suffered without him for sure. Maiden with just Janick and Dave was a much thinner sound and far less innovative than what Dave and Adrian were doing in the 80's.It is always possible to appreciate the contributions from other band members but still feel that without Adrian Smith the band is not at the same level of greatness, isn't it?
You’ve got the causality reversed, and you’re exaggerating my point of view. I didn’t come in with a preconception that I was only going to like songs written by certain people, and there are of course plenty of Steve and Dave songs that are great, and even Janick’s “The Timelegacyman of Deathsouls” is a pretty great song (though I’m not sure why it’s reappeared on every album since 2003). I’m saying that my personal impression, the things that I naturally responded to most, were the performance and songwriting contributions of Bruce and Adrian. That was a conclusion drawn from my experience, not a preconception that influenced my experience.While you really emphasize "recognizing" something was missing without Adrian, overfocusing on Adrian(lessness) certainly has been a handicap as well, hasn't it? For decades you did not enjoy what Iron Maiden was doing (even on work when he was in the band, you felt the minority of the songs were better than the majority without his writing; and also when he returned, it was hard to accept, because his other stuff with Bruce was better). Adrian, Adrian, Adrian
I never said I didn’t appreciate their work, just that I didn’t like it as much overall. Should I pretend that I love it? What purpose would that serve?It's Iron Maiden. There are other people (as well) who are the heart and soul of this band and without appreciating them and their work (as well), one only likes a small slice of pie this band has done.
Although I, personally, enjoy 99% of Iron Maiden's output and I still think there's a ton of fun in the 90s, I don't blame anyone who doesn't, as long as they've given it an honest try, which Jer certainly has based on his detailed opinions.
The alternate timeline where Bruce, H, and Z work together for the next 10, 20 years is going to have some interesting music too. I don't know that it would be better than what Iron Maiden's done - but there's a greater-than-zero-chance of it!
Yeah, I mean, I'm skeptical too, which is why I phrased it as a "greater than zero" chance rather than a "good" chance or anything like that. Who knows, really.Call me a sceptic but there's no way the Bruce, H and Z line up does anymore than release a third album, unless that somehow becomes a massive success financially (I don't mean critically, he's already critically successful). I can just see Bruce jacking it all in around the early 2000's when he has the pilots bug and he doesn't want to be self financing tours to play toilets.
The way I see some Adri(f)anatics reason, to me it can start to come across as some sort of principle, a truth.That was a conclusion drawn from my experience, not a preconception that influenced my experience.
they played in small venues,even in spain.You see, I have always wondered if that's really true. In terms of quality, it is a subjective debate - I think TXF is the band's best album, others think it's their worst, and that's fine. But in terms of success - is it really so? Sure, their album sales took a downturn in Europe and North America, and they played smaller venues, not to mention the two half-cancelled US tours. But at the same time, perhaps out of necessity, they started expanding their market. They played much more extensively in Eastern Europe and South America and visited entirely new countries such as Turkey, Israel and South Africa. In South America, they played stadium gigs. I don't know if it's possible to do the maths, but I'd not be surprised if their total worldwide audience during the Blaze era was bigger than in the late eighties and early nineties.
they played in small venues,even in spain.