GREATEST METAL ALBUM CUP - Winner: Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son!

Slipknot's impact doesn't really, well barely really, extends outside of nu metal (a vapid genre as is that hasn't produced anything worthwhile or noteworthy). They sound more like a modern hard rock act with more than just mere pop sensibilities. And I've nominated some stuff that can be considered hard rock, but I don't know what it is with Slipknot, their entire sound is just forced. I can't hear any believable bits of heaviness in their sound, and they're quite whiny. Like my complaint with Meshuggah, a lot of those mainstream modern 'metal' acts have a sort of forced brutality to them. Constant breakdowns doesn't equate to heaviness, neither do piss poor vocals in an attempt to sound tough.
 
Hardly any of what he said is factual. Nothing really. Everything from his opinion of Corey's vocals to labeling them just nu metal is just utter bullshit.
 
Dityn DJ James said:
Slipknot's impact doesn't really, well barely really, extends outside of nu metal (a vapid genre as is that hasn't produced anything worthwhile or noteworthy). They sound more like a modern hard rock act with more than just mere pop sensibilities. And I've nominated some stuff that can be considered hard rock, but I don't know what it is with Slipknot, their entire sound is just forced. I can't hear any believable bits of heaviness in their sound, and they're quite whiny. Like my complaint with Meshuggah, a lot of those mainstream modern 'metal' acts have a sort of forced brutality to them. Constant breakdowns doesn't equate to heaviness, neither do piss poor vocals in an attempt to sound tough.
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Honestly I agree, apart from one or two songs (Psychosocial is fun), Slipknot aren’t my cup of tea at all. But in their defense, they’re also one of the biggest modern “metal” acts, so I can understand why they’d be a part of the Greatest Metal Album Cup. BabyMetal are also kinda popular it seems. Of course they’re gonna be voted out pretty quickly since most of the members here have tastes that more align with “classic” metal (myself included), but I think it makes sense to include them to show just how far the genre has come and how wild some takes on it are. Makes more sense than Pink Floyd...* :innocent:

Not that I’m complaining. Some oddball entries here and there make it all the more interesting. In hindsight I’d probably have thrown in Bat Out Of Hell, a hard rock album, just because it’s written with a metal kind of swagger. But that’s neither here nor there.
 
Collin said:
Also why did @Midnight nominate Babymetal?
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Why not?

Of course, nowadays, I'd nominate something like Sabotage, The Way Of All Flesh, or even Red by King Crimson (it's technically prog rock, but it's heavy enough to qualify). Given some of the dreck we've had in earlier rounds, I wanted to throw in something I rather liked that nobody else had heard of. As you can see, it's clearly getting a reaction (although a mostly negative one).

So yes, this can (partially) be attributed to me being a 16-year old who's only been listening to music for just over two years.
 
Midnight said:
Why not?

Of course, nowadays, I'd nominate something like Sabotage, The Way Of All Flesh, or even Red by King Crimson (it's technically prog rock, but it's heavy enough to qualify). Given some of the dreck we've had in earlier rounds, I wanted to throw in something I rather liked that nobody else had heard of. As you can see, it's clearly getting a reaction (although a mostly negative one).

So yes, this can (partially) be attributed to me being a 16-year old who's only been listening to music for just over two years.
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I think you've achieved quite a lot as a listener in that short of a time. It's also important to remember that listening to music isn't a competition.
 
KidInTheDark666 said:
Why does everyone here like Amorphis so much? I struggle to think of a more boring band.
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Lowest Common Denominator maybe? Certainly for me anyway, they've got a load of votes from me in the game despite them not being anything I'd be particularly interested in, and I've never felt the urge to check out an album after a round. However, they've been lucky in being quite often drawn against bands that I have even less interest in.
 
I don't like Slipknot at all and can't envisage voting for them unless the come up against something real bad, but let's be realistic, they are a hugely, hugely, successful band, and their albums are far more likley to be candidates to feature on a list of "greatest metal albums" than albums that sold a handful of copies to nobody.

Also, don't shame people for nominating albums in good faith. Mock the album when the time comes, if you feel so inclined, but I don't think there's anything wrong with someone who genuinely likes a particular record putting it on the table and saying "here you go lads and lassies, take a chance on that".
 
Diesel 11 said:
Not that I’m complaining. Some oddball entries here and there make it all the more interesting. In hindsight I’d probably have thrown in Bat Out Of Hell, a hard rock album, just because it’s written with a metal kind of swagger. But that’s neither here nor there.
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Hey, for what it's worth, I'd much rather accept Bat as a "greatest metal album" than a lot of stuff we've seen so far, honestly. I wonder where it would end up (probably eliminated by Nostradamus in the first round, though, so I don't wonder that much...)
 
Like it or not (I personally can't stand them) Slipknot somehow achieved a stratospheric dimension in the metal scene. And I'd wish it was only inside the Nu Metal community but no, fact is Nu Metal withered and Slipknot continued to be one of the most popular metal bands worldwide. And I know lots of people who simply aren't fans of other Nu Metal acts like Korn or Limp Bizkit but love Slipknot. Once again I must stress that I can't stand their sound but fact is the aggression and traits of their tracks leave no choice but to include Slipknot in the metal genre (unless you're deaf, or you don't know what metal is or you're a trve snob elitist like the encyclopaedia metallum dudes). So, while I personally consider it to be chewing gum cash grab and brainless stuff disguised in tharshy/ groove guitars there's no doubt they are not only 100% fitting in the metal universe but somehow (not thanks to me, that's for sure) already left a huge mark on it.
 
Midnight said:
Why not?

Of course, nowadays, I'd nominate something like Sabotage, The Way Of All Flesh, or even Red by King Crimson (it's technically prog rock, but it's heavy enough to qualify). Given some of the dreck we've had in earlier rounds, I wanted to throw in something I rather liked that nobody else had heard of. As you can see, it's clearly getting a reaction (although a mostly negative one).

So yes, this can (partially) be attributed to me being a 16-year old who's only been listening to music for just over two years.
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From Baby Metal to masterpieces a) Sabotage b) The Way Of All Flesh and c) Red. I'm moved. It is people like you young man that somehow maintain my faith in mankind.
 
Yeah, this
Midnight said:
I'd nominate something like Sabotage, The Way Of All Flesh, or even Red by King Crimson
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Midnight said:
me being a 16-year old who's only been listening to music for just over two years
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is really something. When I was 16 and had been seriously listening to music for just over three years, I was snubbing off Sabbath and I possibly'd never even heard of King Crimson, so I'm just tippin' my hat to you.
 
Eventually a Maiden album will lose. Today is not that day. Iron Maiden.

Babymetal is certainly ... something. I really don't have anything else to say. Rush.

I've really enjoyed everything I've heard from Powerwolf so far and would love to discover them further.

Rosetta is interesting, but Hemispheres is an all-timer. Rush.
 
These were all very easy, though I almost voted for Powerwolf. I think SOS is one of their best, but the same can be said of Skyforger, which ultimately has far more depth.
 
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