Favorite Current Iron Maiden Lead Guitarist

Who is your favourite current Iron Maiden lead guitarist?

  • Dave Murray

    Votes: 51 39.5%
  • Adrian Smith

    Votes: 63 48.8%
  • Janick Gers

    Votes: 15 11.6%

  • Total voters
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Adrian, by several lightyears.
For me, Dave repeats the same playing too much. Yes, his legato is amazing and its an obsolute joy to listen to......but he ends up doing it all the time for most of his solos, even ones he didnt originally do it that much on (like the Trooper).
Janick, well, actually I'd vote for Janick over Dave...but he doesnt top Adrian. In my eyes, Janick is in between Dave and Adrian with a lot more spontaneous playing. Good live player and fairly interesting with his solos but has a tendencey to repeat like Dave.

Adrian.......well. Ignoring his other super powers (song writing and singing) to make it fair, he still impresses me the most. I don't think there is an Adrian solo that I don't like. Well, getting over the awe, I love Adrian's playing purely for his slower style and varied playing. It seems to make his solos especially seem more special because every note is calculated and just "fits". Unlike guitar solos a la Dragonforce and the like where there are thousands of seemingly randomly placed notes with no ryhme or reason to them, Adrians solos seem fit with the songs and compliment them rather than detract from them like oh so many guitar solos over history.
Theres more I love about Adrians playing, but I think its just me being obsessed.  :D
 
Ardius said:
Adrian, by several lightyears.
For me, Dave repeats the same playing too much. Yes, his legato is amazing and its an obsolute joy to listen to......but he ends up doing it all the time for most of his solos, even ones he didnt originally do it that much on (like the Trooper).
Janick, well, actually I'd vote for Janick over Dave...but he doesnt top Adrian. In my eyes, Janick is in between Dave and Adrian with a lot more spontaneous playing. Good live player and fairly interesting with his solos but has a tendencey to repeat like Dave.

Adrian’s solos might be easier to listen to. Slower, and more melodic stuff. Still he plays most of  his solos the same way, tour after tour.

This can't be said of Dave who is more adventurous. He brings more variation in his live playing. I don’t know how many (bootleg)versions you have heard of The Trooper, but Dave varies this solo, almost every tour. Quite some other tracks as well..

Anyway, it all has to do with Dave being an improviser and Adrian being the calculated (6 out of 8 solos are worked out, before he records them in the studio) and safe player. I'm glad that they're different.
 
Forostar said:
Adrian’s solos might be easier to listen to. Slower, and more melodic stuff. Still he plays most of  his solos the same way, tour after tour.

This can't be said of Dave who is more adventurous. He brings more variation in his live playing. I don’t know how many (bootleg)versions you have heard of The Trooper, but Dave varies this solo, almost every tour. Quite some other tracks as well..

Anyway, it all has to do with Dave being an improviser and Adrian being the calculated (6 out of 8 solos are worked out, before he records them in the studio) and safe player. I'm glad that they're different.

Well, I agree that its good they're all different, otherwise there would be no point in having 2 or 3 guitarists.
 
I agree with you Ardius, 100%. I'm not a musician, but I love H's solos best out of the 3. Most of Davey's are great too, but H has that feeling when he plays his solos. I like the fact he doesn't change them live either. Dave sometimes goes a bit nuts when he's doing a solo live. Janick is all over the place all the time  :P I think they need to follow the studio recordings pretty close when they're playing the songs live. That's just me. H does that almost perfectly.
 
Dave has that unmistable "warm" sound. A lot of natural born feeling in e.g. Still Life, Deja-vu, Powerslave (2008!!), Charlotte The Harlot, Benjamin Breeg, Fates Warning, and numerous other songs.

Imo most Adrian solos on NOTB are worse than Dave´s (22 & COTD excluded!). It took H time to play faster solos in a good manner. Just like Glenn Tipton who got better and better on every new Priest album (especially in the seventies).
 
^Agree with both. Except the bit about "they should play the songs exactly like in the studio".....I didnt mean what I said quite like that. I like spontanaeity live, its one of the things that makes hearing songs live special and different to the studio. What I meant was that I disliked Dave's constantly changing all the time.
Once again, like pretty much everything in life, its a balance.
Too much spontaneous playing and changes = is it the same song anymore? Can you honestly say you like the original song, if you only like the solo because its changed everytime?
Too little changes = pretty boring, it may as well be the track running on a CD into the gigs speaker system.

I think Adrian leans towards the little changes aspect of playing, like Forostar says, but I think he saves himself just enough because he does add a little bit to it. I dont know what it is, but I think Adrians playing live sounds much better than in studio. This may be just the fact that live > studio, but there is a difference between hearing Children of the Damned on a CD or vinyl and hearing it live.
I suppose Im trying to say Adrian's a good live guitarist as well as a good studio musician but not because of anything he changes in his playing, he just sounds better.
 
Ardius said:
Too much spontaneous playing and changes = is it the same song anymore?

As long as the rest of the song (the backbone of bass/drums/rhythm guitars and vocals) is the same: yes (until now: for me it's in Dave's case not too much changes yet).

Ardius said:
Can you honestly say you like the original song, if you only like the solo because its changed everytime?

I do not only like the solo because it's changed all the time. The solo is the solo, and I don't mind if Dave does his thing with it, nor do I dislike Adrian's approach.

Dave doesn't make huge changes, by the way. Only more often, and bigger changes than Adrian. Still, the main lines in his solos are still kept. So these solos are not that different from the originals, at least that's how I experience it.

Ardius said:
I think Adrian leans towards the little changes aspect of playing, like Forostar says, but I think he saves himself just enough because he does add a little bit to it. I dont know what it is, but I think Adrians playing live sounds much better than in studio. This may be just the fact that live > studio, but there is a difference between hearing Children of the Damned on a CD or vinyl and hearing it live.

I agree that all his NOTB stuff sounds better live than on the album. This may be due to the way his solos on NOTB were produced, or because of the equipment he used himself.

But when we talk about other albums, I'm not sure to say that most of his solos sound live better than in the studio. I think I prefer his studio sound most of the time. In concert Adrian's sound seems a bit thinner to me than on the albums, where Dave always shines (live and studio). When I compare H's lead work on the Maiden England video with his solos on SSOASS & SIT, I surely prefer that studio sound. I think that he also sounds excellent on all other albums apart from NOTB.

Ardius said:
I suppose Im trying to say Adrian's a good live guitarist as well as a good studio musician but not because of anything he changes in his playing, he just sounds better.

I understand what you mean. I have to admit that since he returned in Maiden, his live solos sound as least as great as on the albums, I only thought he sounded a bit thinner in eighties concerts, so actually most of my babblings shouldn't be taken too seriously. ;)
 
Janick Gers (he's the most "metal"). It's tough to decide because they are all good; it's the vast difference between each that sets them apart, not talent. Janick is the guitarist that really inspired my own playing (listen to Live At Donnington), and he is so great onstage. His riffs are sick too!
 
uptheirons said:
Janick Gers (he's the most "metal"). It's tough to decide because they are all good; it's the vast difference between each that sets them apart, not talent. Janick is the guitarist that really inspired my own playing (listen to Live At Donnington), and he is so great onstage. His riffs are sick too!

Nah, Adrian is the most "metal": mullet, bandanna and he plays double-necked bright red Jacksons and fancy-pants Lado Earths. Hmm...wait...now he sounds like some hair metal nutter.

Anyway, you know what I meant Forostar, I used Children of the Damned as an example. I do far prefer the The Evil That Men Do solo live too and (insert adrian solo here).

Well, I dont think anyone can deny Adrian's awesomeness when theyve seen Death on the Road........especially Paschendale. Oh god, once again ive ended up talking about Adrian's godliness......this forum is cursed. Im forever posting about how great he is and somehow always relating it to the thread! :dancinggeek:
 
Hahaha, no prob mate! It's healthy to be enthousiastic about music(ians)! :)

@uptheirons: I also like Jan's riffing! It's nice that also the riffings of the three amigoes are quite different.
 
Ardius said:
Nah, Adrian is the most "metal": mullet, bandanna and he plays double-necked bright red Jacksons and fancy-pants Lado Earths. Hmm...wait...now he sounds like some hair metal nutter.
That mullet was a thing of, well, you know, before he left the band. But seriously now, when was the last time he played one of those Lados? My avatar has one, right? So that was from Powerslave. Has he played one in concert since the reunion?

Ardius said:
Anyway, you know what I meant Forostar, I used Children of the Damned as an example. I do far prefer the The Evil That Men Do solo live too and (insert adrian solo here).
Oh yeah! I love his solo in TETMD! He plays it so nicely live. It's one of his top 3 solos ever, IMO.
Ardius said:
Well,  anyone can deny Adrian's awesomeness when theyve seen Death on the Road........especially Paschendale. Oh god, once again ive ended up talking about Adrian's godliness......this forum is cursed. Im forever posting about how great he is and somehow always relating it to the thread! :dancinggeek:
I've seen the doc. from DOTR, I need to watch the show. But I have seen some vids on You Tube. I remember some of Pasch. But from what I said before, sometimes Murray goes on a tear and does sort of meaningless shreds that don't fit the tune or whatever. But he's been playing these songs for a long time, you know, so he must do that to change it up from time to time. When H plays a solo live he puts a few tweaks in it, bit the heart of the solo is there. I like that better.
 
Seriously now, when was the last time he played one of those Lados? My avatar has one, right? So that was from Powerslave. Has he played one in concert since the reunion?

Guitar from your avatar is Lado Earth. He hasn't used that guitar since the World Slavery Tour.

On SIT and SSOASS tours he used all-white Jackson Custom USA MIDI strat, white-black Jackson Custom USA strat, Lado Laser, and ocassionaly, Les Paul.

He used Jackson Kings V and Les Paul with Bruce's band. ASAP video also shows him playing the Les goldtop. Not sure what he used with Psycho Motel...

On Ed Hunter Tour, Kings V, Les Paul, and the sunburn Stratocaster.

I think he mainly used Stratocasters on BNW, DoD and AMOLAD tours, with some other guitar popping on the ocassion, like the black Les Paul on "Iron Maiden" on Rock In Rio, double-neck Jackson on Children Of The Damned, etc...
 
Thank you Zare, that helps out a lot  :)

What kind of axe is he using in The Wicker Man video? Is it a Gibson? *I have a limited knowledge of these things, but I know a wee bit cuz my husband is a bass player.

And one other thing, I think it was during the last tour, say last year or so. H and Murray played the same guitar, must have been a Strat. Only difference was, one neck was a different wood or something... BTW, what's the difference between a Telecaster and a Strat?

I remember looking at Lado's website and saw a Lado Earth (Lado Earth 2?) for like $2300...must have been some sort of vintage one. That's expensive!
 
No problem at all.

Gibson Les Paul, in the Wickerman video. Both Dave and Adrian have cream-white Fender strats. But, Dave uses Seymour Duncan pickups, while Adrian uses DiMarzio pickups.

In essence, Adrian's strats have almost the same sound as his Lados or Jacksons. Same pickups - DiMarzio Super Distortion on the bridge position, and DiMarzio Paf Pro on the neck position (if the guitar has two humbuckers, not sure what he uses for single coils...).

Funny, his Jackson Kings V has Seymour Duncan humbuckers. Maybe they responded better to the downtuning and bass string rewiring of the dark ages of the accident of birth  :D

Regarding Lado, it's a custom crafted guitar, made by the one of the best - Joe Kovacic. $2300 is below average price for Lado Earth 200x model.

Difference between tel and strat...well just do a search on youtube, "adrian smith guitar lesson". In the first part, he's playing on strat, and when he starts talking about working with Roy Z, he switches to telecaster.

Technically, telecasters are more of a rock'n'roll guitar, relying mainly on single-coiled pickups, thinner fretboards and lower frets. Dukes Of Hazzard that sort of era  :D Stratocasters are an all-around workhorse. You can fit some powerful pickups, Floyd Rose locking, etc...and you have a heavy metal guitar.

Basically, Adrian plays strats live nowadays because they're very light...and he's 50y.o. man  :bigsmile:

P.S. and regarding the topic, i voted for H, normally, i'll explain in depth when i get some free time to write one big post.
 
I have watched that H guitar lesson on You Tube before. But I never paid attention to him changing guitars.

You say $2300 is below average for a Lado? Are those things like $3000? Guess he wanted the best, eh?  :halo: There's nothing wring with that. I like the shape of the guitar. All those Fenders/Jacksons look the same. I guess that's why I get confused a lot  :blush:

I watched that making of AMOLAD, thanks to Ardius, and H said he paid like $200 for his Les Paul Gold Top when he got it in like...1974 when he was 17. I bet it's worth loads now!  :D He played that at the Rainbow on his very first show w/the band on 12-21-80!
 
Well, he is the most technical player of all three, most varied in technique, and has the biggest feel regarding his solos.

First, his solos are composed, they aren't improvised. While Dave and Janick, for most of the time, improvise solos on rehersal, and then pick up the best one, Adrian composes them. That's why they have an excellent relation to the chord structure in the background, everything seems perfect.

And also, his solos seem to revolve around the vocal melodies. That's a big plus too, because the vocals set the real melody of the song sometimes.

He plays in different scales. Dave and Janick use minor petatonic scale most of the time.

But the key to H's playing...he knows a lot of different techiniques, and he knows when to use them. He has solos full of fancy tappings, divebombs etc...but still those solos sound like an essential music part of the song, a music part, not somekind of filler.

For instance, the Wicker Man solo, first goes the blues lick, then tapping, then classical style, then shredding. And it's all combined perfectly to match the background musical structure, combined perfectly to match song's mood. And it even goes better...everything is highly melodic, filled with that unique Adrian Smith feel.

He is the fastest among Maiden's axe army, altrough he doesn't play fast all the time. He plays fast when he thinks that's needed. For instance, scaling riff part from CSIT solo, convolution tapping part from SOM solo, or the convolution scale parts from OTGDY or NML solos. It may not sound fast like Dave's fast bluesy legato or Janick's shredding, but, for instance convolution tapping requires perfect coordination of both hands, every note needs to be picked precisely, while Dave's legato requires fast work by right hand, and picking hand just gives accent to each string/note in the sequence. Janick's shredding requires picking hand to shred the wire at 2x tempo of the track. Both of latter techniques are a lot easier than H's technique.

Just look at CSIT solo...in technical terms, first goes ordinary scale variation, full of melody and artificial harmonics, then downrun followed by a big scalling riff which ends by convolution tapping, then we have two-hand tapping followed by bluesy downward scale run, then a divebomb followed by two-hand tapping and whammy bar usage at the same time.

If you passed on this explanation to someone that didn't hear CSIT, he'll think that solo sounds like some Malmsteen-type guitar show-off. Heh, in reality, CSIT solo is the perfectly composed piece of music for itself, yet full of virtuoso guitar playing, and yet, in every moment, it relates perfectly with the background structure and the main song theme.

I won't even mention his atmospheric solos, alike SIASL or Prodigial Son. Sends shivers down my spine each time i hear them.

Regarding his evolution as a guitarist, at Killers he mainly played melodic parts, while Murray was in charge of faster, legato stuff to brush up the pace. At TNOTB, POM and Powerslave, he started mixing his melodic parts with faster-paced techniques, which culminated on SIT, the best work of his life, ultra-fast paced solos full of techniques, yet retaining the melody. On SSOASS, he cutted the pacing parts a bit to the favor of melodic and atmospheric stuff.

ASAP brought us sound of the '80s, a lot of squeals, but still melody based. It's pity that he didn't proceed with the SIT-type of soloing. Psycho Motel showed that he can both play in different keys and in different rhythms.

Bruce Dickinson era...well, again, playing from different scales (and in different tunings), and at this time, he started using arpeggios for the large portion of his playing. Note : the Man Of Sorrows solo, especially the clean-part at the end of it. The man managed to combine several arpeggios at once, and still there's a melody passing in between. The SIASL-type of melody...

Reunion era showed that H, by combining all techniques he can play (and those are many!), can be really refreshing compared to Dave and Jan who started to lose their ideas. Reunion albums weren't exciting in the terms of H's soloing like SIT was, but again he combines different stuff in one solo to compose a great final product. Wicker Man, No More Lies, Different World, Paschendale, Lord Of Light, BTATS...list goes on.

In essence, Dave and Janick rely on couple of techniques, and they repeat themselves a lot. H does that in a negligible extent, the only straight repeat of his is the OOTS solo, there's a same part of singlehand tapping like in the Wicker Man solo. Yet again, the pace is a lot slower, and both in OOTS and WM that part fits in perfectly.

For the end of this essay, i'll quote a former statement from H's wikipedia entry : "Nobody sounds like Adrian Smith, and that's priceless."

You say $2300 is below average for a Lado?

Well, the standard price is around $2500-2600. It also depends on pickups you want there, and i think you also have a option between Schaller's Floyd Rose and original Floyd Rose.

All those Fenders/Jacksons look the same

Fender Stratocaster is a brand itself. For instance, those custom Jackson strats that both Adrian and Dave used, have licensed Fender headstock. Jackson needed a licence to build the same shape head like the original strat.

And Jacksons do not look all the same  :D Check out Warrior, Kings V, Randy Rhoads...

The thing is, there's a common name for all those Jackson, Ibanez, ESP, etc. strat-alikes. Superstrats. In early '80s, best guitarists felt crippled with the current guitar market. Thick fretboards, low frets, 22 frets only, non-locking tremolo systems, etc...Then, guys like Vai ordered their custom models from the companies above, stratocaster type of guitar, customized for fast playing.

In essence, those guitars are called superstrats. They have a familiar strat shape, but the guitars are made for high-performance.

I have a superstrat myself, an Ibanez RG. The body is of strat shape, yet it's a bit more pointy, to add to the feel. The fretboard features 24 jumbo frets, and it's probably 1.5 times thinner than "ordinary guitar". The action (space between the strings and the fretboard), is as low as it gets. You know, for metal soloing, you'll do better if you have low action. Still, you can't just tweak the tremolo on the ordinary guitar to achieve low action, because strings will start bouncing off the frets and pickup holders when you start hitting the upper fret notes. Guitar needs to be crafted to support such low action.

Which brings me back to Lado Earth, i've heard a guy say, that guitar has a such low action, and it's crafted in such a manner, if you had 30 frets on it, you'd still be able to play at 30th fret without any bouncing and stuff.

H said he paid like $200 for his Les Paul Gold Top when he got it in like...1974

Well, first, $200 worthed a lot more in 1974 than it does nowadays, and in 1974, Les Paul was something like a mainstream guitar. Nowadays, Les Pauls are more of a vintage stuff, even if they were produced out of the factory this year.
 
OMG Zare, thank you so much for that! I've been bombarded with all this stuff in 2 days! 

You mentioned a few times the CSIT solo. That thing kills! Murray's solo is nice, but H blows it away. But SIT is his album. He wrote 3 songs for it and his solos all though it are real nice. That's why I want them to open the show with CSIT. Aces High is great, yes, but CSIT is longer and the sound of it is...wow. Unbelieveable!

That tapping you talked about, it's kinda like the Eddie Van Halen stuff he does on say, Hot For Teacher and stuff on the first Van Halen album? Both hands doing stuff on the neck? Or like at the beginning of Hallowed where Dave has his pick in his mouth and does whatever he does?  :blush: lol I'm sorry, I'm not up on all the guitar terminology...  You compared how the 3 of them play and said H's style is the  hardest, but to me it would be all mindboggling considering I've never held a guitar in my life  :)

I said at the beginning of all of this ( another post somewhere at least I think I did) I like H's solos out of the 3. Lots of feeling and variety. Dave and Janick repeat a lot of the same stuff. And I was thinking about the solos on AMOLAD the other day. H did 7 (Different World, TCDR, BTATS, The Longest Day, OOTS, FTGGOG, LOL) Dave did 6 (TCDR, The Longest Day, OOTS (mega solo counts all through the song, right?) Benjamin, FTGGOG, and LOL) *Oh, that would be 7 then, right? and Janick did 4 (BTATS, The Pilgrim, FTGGOG, and The Legacy), I think.  H clearly has the better solos out of that bunch. But Dave does great on Out Of the Shadows!  :D H's TCDR solo is wonderful. So is BTATS. 

My husband said last week he wishes Maiden still had only 2 guitar players. He's been a huge follower ever since 1981. I thought that for a bit too, cuz I feel Janick is out of place because H and Dave compliment each other so well. But their sound is so full and now with 3 guitarists they could play stuff like Flash Of the Blade and Duellists so they could pull off 3 part harmonies. Before it was only in the studio. They're more progressive now, I think, so Janick is a vital part of the Maiden sound. He just doesn't solo that well to me. His good solos are Dream Of Mirrors, Dance Of Death, Paschendale...that's all I can think of. I think his solo is BTATS just doesn't fit.
 
You seem to focus a lot on the technique, and state that Dave and Janick use less different kind of techniques than Adrian. Might be, but still, in my ears, Adrian often plays the same kind of technique(s).

For me his sound, the way he presses the snares, is much more his trademark. It sounds typical Adrian, and is more unique about him, than anything else. His long and deep tones have an unmistakable H sound.

Now this CSIT solo. Indeed, some parts are very fast, but his fast parts are often around the same notes, while Dave’s solo in CSIT is really going over a big part of the neck. Dave’s solo is fast, fluently and the fingers of his left hand move very fast and perfect over the notes. That might be more difficult than Adrian's solo, but I guess that depends who you'll ask.

I understand people like Adrian, but it seems Dave and Janick are getting more and more underrated on this forum lately.

To level things a bit I'd like to quote Adrian himself, talking on the official Iron Maiden site about Dave, who basically was his teacher when they were young:

Dave’s a very good guitarist, but he’s not the kind of guy who tries to outdo everybody. There’s enough scope in Iron Maiden’s music for all three guitarists to express themselves. The phrase 'Let the music do the talking' springs to mind when you talk about Dave. He’s always been able to express himself very well through the guitar.

He’s got his own style and sound, and that’s a rare thing. Everyone who plays guitar wants to have that and he always has, even when he’d just started playing. We could plug into the same amp and he’d still sound like him. If you hear Dave playing, you know it’s Iron Maiden straight away.


To me this says that Dave can do a lot of things but that he doesn't necesarily have to show it all the time, because there's "enough scope in Iron Maiden’s music for all three guitarists to express themselves".
 
I don't think Dave is underrated. He is as far as solos go, but Dave to me is better than Janick. Dave has some awesome solos on each album. H has awesome solos period.  :blush: Janick has a few nice solos, but some of his are too much and don't go with the song. That's my personal taste  :)

And Dave's sound is unmistakable. But I get it confused w/Janick sometimes. But I can tell most of the time a Murray solo from an H solo.

Oh and Zare, you said you love the solos from SIASL and Prodigal Son? Hell yeah! True awesomeness! Don't forget Wasted Years and The Evil That Men Do!  :ok:
 
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