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http://skynews.skypressoffice.co.uk/newstranscripts/murnaghan-210914-interview-alex-salmond
ALEX SALMOND: The analysis we now have, we know that the majority of Scots up to the age of 55 voted for independence and the majority of Scots over 55 voted against independence...
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...there are a whole range of ways Scotland can improve its position in pursuit of Scottish independence. I think that’s going to happen, Dermot. I mean when you have a situation where the majority of a country up to the age of 55 is already voting for independence then I think the writing’s on the wall for Westminster, I think the destination is pretty certain, we are only now debating the timescale and the method. Now I’ll contribute to that debate but I think it’s time for new leadership. I think Scots of my generation and above should really be looking at themselves in the mirror and wonder if we by majority, as a result of our decision, have actually impeded progress for the next generation which is something no generation should do...
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...I think it is the people who voted no because they believed these commitments from the Westminster leadership, these are the people who are feeling most angry, most hurt, most disappointed in Scotland today and I think the wrath of Khan will be as nothing compared to the wrath of a no voter who has been gulled by the Westminster leadership...
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That age thing means something though. Wrath goes a little far, but he has a point: The writing is on the wall indeed.
 
Maybe, but people everywhere tend to get conservative as they age. There's no guarantee that in 30 years the age breakdown on this issue would be any different.
 
Forostar said:
That age thing means something though. Wrath goes a little far, but he has a point: The writing is on the wall indeed.
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The numbers were very similar in Quebec 20 years ago. Now the young of Quebec overwhelmingly prefer to stay in Canada. This isn't a conservative issue vs a liberal issue. This is a question of whether or not today's young Scots will believe in the Union as they grow and learn. I have trust that they will, because today's Union won't be the one that exists in a year, or 10 years. It is changing because of their desires.
 
I would be interested in seeing how the results scale based on level of education. Something tells me that the more education someone has, the more likely they are to vote No.
 
There was supposedly quite an age thing, I'm not sure that's strictly about education, though.
 
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It's not Russia, not Ukraine and not Scotland, and I know that nobody is going to give a shit about it here (as the lack of replies to the last post already demonstrates), but there are other countries in Europe as well, and things keep going downhill. This commentary basically says everything I've been thinking on the subject for the last two years:

Economically, Germany is a threat to itself

I don't expect any replies on this, I know that other matters in Europe are much sexier (even Gibraltar), but I still hope that one or two people will click on this link and read beyond the headline.
 
I thought it was interesting. The lack of response is probably due to the fact that most people don't know much about social economics and don't feel confident in holding opinions about it. Plus unlike a conflict, it's not easy to point out good and bad guys. (Not that it's right to point out good and bad guys in a conflict, but it's easy nevertheless)
 
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It's not Russia, not Ukraine and not Scotland, and I know that nobody is going to give a shit about it here (as the lack of replies to the last post already demonstrates), but there are other countries in Europe as well, and things keep going downhill. This commentary basically says everything I've been thinking on the subject for the last two years:

Economically, Germany is a threat to itself

I don't expect any replies on this, I know that other matters in Europe are much sexier (even Gibraltar), but I still hope that one or two people will click on this link and read beyond the headline.
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I found it very interesting and did read it along with the previous one. As Wingman pointed out, I just don't feel qualified to talk about (I know, shocker). It only took me a decade, but I learned to just stay quite on matters that are WAY over my head. For the ones just a few inches higher I still chirp up ;)
 
It falls in line with everything I believe to be true, and since I agree with Perun on most things politically, all I can say is:

Yep.
 
Because the Dutch actually have submarines, and the Russians are not going to actually tip their hat. They're going to make people go...huh, wait a minute.
 
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Estonia has summoned the Russian ambassador after a Russian spy plane entered the Baltic country’s airspace without permission.

A spokeswoman for the Estonian Foreign Ministry said the Baltic country considers the violation serious and “demands an explanation” from the ambassador.

The spokeswoman said Estonia wants to know why a Russian Ilyushin-20 surveillance aircraft crossed into its airspace Tuesday afternoon.

NATO says the Russian aircraft was in Estonian airspace for about a minute.

NATO says it scrambled Danish and Portuguese F-16s from an air base in the Baltics after an unknown aircraft appeared on radar.

Danish fighter jets intercepted and identified the Russian plane.

The Russian aircraft reportedly flew from Russia’s Baltic enclave of Kaliningrad.

After it was intercepted by the Danish fighter jets, the plane flew north and was intercepted by Swedish F-16s.

NATO says when the Russian spy plane turned south it crossed into Estonian airspace.

Portuguese F-16s were then scrambled from an air base in Lithuania and escorted the Russian plane away from NATO airspace.
 
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