Coronavirus

The_7th_one said:
I've seen the news on tv and they have showed what is happening in UK. Liverpool fans celebrating a won football match like crazy. All together without respect social distancing and without wearing masks.
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That's disgusting. I think Liverpool should he disqualified and the title awarded to some other team.
 
Brigantium said:
Especially when it's sunny. Arseholes.
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I think the BLM protests were a big catalyst for what we've seen at beaches and at Anfield recently - also some of the illegal raves etc that have been taking place. The government couldn't really do anything about massive anti-racism protests without looking heavy handed and authoritarian, so they may have felt compelled to start relaxing restrictions sooner than they actually wanted to. Plus people have seen these massive protests being allowed to take place so they've probably thought "fuck it, if they can do that then we'll do whatever we want too".
 
The_7th_one said:
I've seen the news on tv and they have showed what is happening in UK. Liverpool fans celebrating a won football match like crazy. All together without respect social distancing and without wearing masks. The same in a beach at south of England that was full of people who travel in train like sardines and another celebration in London with people without masks and dancing in parks and streets. No police or control anywhere. That shocked me a little bit to be honest.

Italy, France and Spain are having some cases like these.

The borders are open and the virus can travel everywhere. This could be turn in a disaster again
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Whilst I am not condoning the disgraceful behaviour of those who have been flouting the rules lately (leaving the beaches like a pigsty in the process), it never ceases to amaze me the obsession of the Spanish press with reporting every minimal flouting of rules that happens in the UK and not in Spain or anywhere else in the world!

Post Gibraltar Stress Disorder? :p
 
Black Wizard said:
I think the BLM protests were a big catalyst for what we've seen at beaches and at Anfield recently - also some of the illegal raves etc that have been taking place. The government couldn't really do anything about massive anti-racism protests without looking heavy handed and authoritarian, so they may have felt compelled to start relaxing restrictions sooner than they actually wanted to. Plus people have seen these massive protests being allowed to take place so they've probably thought "fuck it, if they can do that then we'll do whatever we want too".
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If you remember from the early days of lockdown or just pre-lockdown, people were converging on places like Brighton and Southend en masse and making a tremendous mess. There's also been an increasing trend for packing onto beaches and leaving masses of rubbish for the past few years, especially people converging on the South Coast and Essex beaches.

I'm not sure the protests and counterprotests were the catalyst, so much as hot weather, the lack of a holiday to Spain, and people acting demob happy because they see restrictions as being as good as scrapped. Even before the protests, places like the Yorkshire Dales an Cheshire were getting a surge of daytrippers who'd clearly never been to the countryside before and don't have a clue how to act responsibly in the countryside. Also significant is that Wales is still pretty much closed, so people in the West Midlands who might have gone to beaches in Wales have gone south instead.

I don't think the Government is particularly at fault re Bournemouth. I think their sort-of relaxation of restrictions (which isn't actually a relaxation at all in most settings) is a direct result of lobbying by the pub chains and hotel chains, and possibly landlords tied in with the hospitality industry. It sounds like they've been threatening to axe jobs and sell up. I agree the Government's hand appears to have been forced, not least by its own party backbenchers.
 
UV and heat are certainly considered to be something that will damage virus particles lying on surfaces. Probably no difference if you're too close to another person and breathe in their breath or cough droplets, though. Outdoors is slightly less risk than indoors, but being jammed together in a crowd still isn't smart. Humidity isn't good either.
 
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Leicester is back on stricter lockdown rules after something like 900 cases in the past 2-3 weeks. It's the first local lockdown in the UK.

Apparently there are a lot of cases among younger working age people, and more cases than you would expect in children. Something like 5 schools which had partially reopened had already closed due to outbreaks. It's unclear if there's a link, but Leicester has quite a high percentage of Asian residents, one of the groups who appear to be at greater risk of Covid.
 
Very proud to top the charts!

The potential new swine flu might be similar enough to the current swine flu that a vaccine could be developed reasonably quickly. I've already had a swine flu vaccine so I'm safe it the original one comes back.
 
Actually, swine flu never went away, it's still in circulation, although it's covered by seasonal flu vaccines.

Interestingly, it turns out flu vaccines are accepted as about 60% effective - not sure if that means they are only effective against a percentage of the strains expected to be in circulation each winter (so 40% of flu strains might not be covered), or if it also means you can still catch a flu strain you've had the jab for but are less likely to be severely affected. That got my interest going because I had the swine flu jab, but was absolutely floored by flu later that year, at a time when several work colleagues, and Paul, went down with what was suspected to be swine flu. The cough was really bad, but luckily it all cleared up after about a week and a half.

There's a suggestion that it's still possible to contract Covid-19 after having the Oxford Coronavirus jab - the monkeys did - but that it's a lot less severe.
 
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