Coronavirus

Just got back from the doctor's office here in Ottawa. It was a surreal experience.

I spoke to my doctor last week on the phone and he decided to see me in person. My doctor's pretty brisk, but he's damn good and doesn't just blame things on my size, rather he looks for root causes and rules stuff out. I arrived and had to wait in the car until a nurse was ready to get me. She told me they're doing it like this: the only people in the office is her, one doctor (there are 8 at the clinic) and one patient. She wore a facemask, a face shield, and gloves. I had to sanitize immediately upon entering. She took my pulse and bp and forwarded me to the doctor, he was in full body protection.

Here's what's sad: the nurse's facemask was handmade, so not medical. The face shields were bodged together using duct tape and clear folder dividers. The body protection was handmade. The system is clearly being stretched, and that's in a very modern country.
 
Bodysuits need to be professioanl, but face shields? I think makeshift ones are fine, it's just in case someone sneezes all that snot doesn't land on your face.
 
LooseCannon said:
Just got back from the doctor's office here in Ottawa. It was a surreal experience.

I spoke to my doctor last week on the phone and he decided to see me in person. My doctor's pretty brisk, but he's damn good and doesn't just blame things on my size, rather he looks for root causes and rules stuff out. I arrived and had to wait in the car until a nurse was ready to get me. She told me they're doing it like this: the only people in the office is her, one doctor (there are 8 at the clinic) and one patient. She wore a facemask, a face shield, and gloves. I had to sanitize immediately upon entering. She took my pulse and bp and forwarded me to the doctor, he was in full body protection.

Here's what's sad: the nurse's facemask was handmade, so not medical. The face shields were bodged together using duct tape and clear folder dividers. The body protection was handmade. The system is clearly being stretched, and that's in a very modern country.
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I went to the doctor a few weeks ago ... they had some pretty spiffy looking face shields and masks. Was a regular GP office, went in for an annual physical. Beyond everyone being suited up the only real differences were they asked me to verify my appointment but not come in the office until 5 minutes before the appointment.
 
In Poland salary of medical staff in some places was cut by 50%. It's amazing motivation during pandemic. We are opening slowly shops and people started to avoid masks. Probably today there will be decision if my department is going back to office in next month.

Also there are claims that Covid was much earlier in Poland, news from France that they found virus in bodies of deceased patients from December started discussion about strange flu in Poland between January and March.

- many schools were closed because of flu outbreaks, school of my son also because of many kids coughing etc.

- my son in February had strange flu that was very infectious, very strong cough and lack of smell and taste.

- two days after he got sick I started to have problems with breathing and small cough. Two days laters I've got shivers so strong that 30 minutes later I was in bed, couldn't talk because of cough. Two days later I lost smell and taste. Muscle aches were so strong that I couldn't walk, migraine, backache and lung weight so great that I could only take short breaths. This passed after over a week. For next week I was barely able to walk because of problems with breathing and fatigue. Everyone at home had these symptoms and all people that I have contact with. I never was so sick in last 10 years. My GF had same thing but for 3 days, my son recovered after 4-5 days. Many people online describe identical symptoms during February - March after visiting other countries or contact with someone from was in Italy or Spain, I was never there tho.

I can do antibodies tests but in Poland that would mean that they will put all of us for 2 week quarantine, even if I'm healthy.
 
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Meliegree said:
I can do antibodies tests but in Poland that would mean that they will put all of us for 2 week quarantine, even if I'm healthy.
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Wait, what? If you were ill in March they'd still quarantine you now, based on a positive antibodies test? If anything, such a test should be your ticket to freedom. You'd be very unlikely to contract the virus again, and thus pose less of a risk to others.
 
Welcome in Poland. They will test for antibodies. If I have them they will test if I'm still sick = quarantine.

Midnight said:
Wait, those are exactly the symptoms of Covid-19! Well, at least you recovered.
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Or some kind of flu, hard to tell now - officially this was month before first covid case in Poland. However I talked with some people, they had exactly same flu with dry cough, lack of taste and problems with breathing problems +/- 3 weeks around the time I've got sick. Usually I recover 3 days after getting sick and that's why I remember this so we'll. We were very close to calling hospital because I was loosing conscious sometimes.

So I'm not telling this was Covid but it's little disturbing.
 
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Also there are claims that Covid was much earlier in Poland, news from France that they found virus in bodies of deceased patients from December started discussion about strange flu in Poland between January and March.

- many schools were closed because of flu outbreaks, school of my son also because of many kids coughing etc.

- my son in February had strange flu that was very infectious, very strong cough and lack of smell and taste.
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There's been bits of of anecdotal stuff elsewhere about unusual 'flu' in the UK and Ireland over winter, too. A friend of mine in Ireland was hospitalised for a few weeks with a bad respiratory infection and serious difficulty breathing. Her lung capacity has only got back to normal recently. It was assumed to be flu. One of the first cases in Ireland also had no contacts to anyone who had ben abroad. I've heard other stories of healthy people floored by a fever and breathing difficulties in December, too, to the extent that they asked relatives to give them their spare asthma inhalers. I had a weird episode in January/February of a cold-that-didn't-turn-into-a-cold but gave me a temperature and set my asthma off. Of course, it's just as likely that there was a flu bug or strange cold circulating and producing these symptoms, but I'd be interested to read more about the cases in France.
 
Meliegree said:
In Poland salary of medical staff in some places was cut by 50%. It's amazing motivation during pandemic. We are opening slowly shops and people started to avoid masks. Probably today there will be decision if my department is going back to office in next month.

Also there are claims that Covid was much earlier in Poland, news from France that they found virus in bodies of deceased patients from December started discussion about strange flu in Poland between January and March.

- many schools were closed because of flu outbreaks, school of my son also because of many kids coughing etc.

- my son in February had strange flu that was very infectious, very strong cough and lack of smell and taste.

- two days after he got sick I started to have problems with breathing and small cough. Two days laters I've got shivers so strong that 30 minutes later I was in bed, couldn't talk because of cough. Two days later I lost smell and taste. Muscle aches were so strong that I couldn't walk, migraine, backache and lung weight so great that I could only take short breaths. This passed after over a week. For next week I was barely able to walk because of problems with breathing and fatigue. Everyone at home had these symptoms and all people that I have contact with. I never was so sick in last 10 years. My GF had same thing but for 3 days, my son recovered after 4-5 days. Many people online describe identical symptoms during February - March after visiting other countries or contact with someone from was in Italy or Spain, I was never there tho.

I can do antibodies tests but in Poland that would mean that they will put all of us for 2 week quarantine, even if I'm healthy.
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Not quite the same, but those people who answered the call to go to New York City to help out were informed they would have to pay New York City tax while they were there helping .. regardless if New York was paying them or not .. classy.
 
Thought this was interesting, and a good idea.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/usd-co...emic-who-calls-the-shots-tickets-103747625942

My alma mater is doing a series of events around COVID. Going to do this one tomorrow for sure, I took some classes from Dr. Dickson, fantastic professor, made everything interesting and is just a really nice guy. Luckily, I do not have anything scheduled then

I'm sure other schools are doing this sort of stuff, but I am not on their mailing lists :)


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His most recent book is The People’s Government: An Introduction to Democracy (Cambridge University Press). His earlier book, The Supreme Court In Conference 1940-1985 (Oxford University Press), earned the national Association of American Publishers award as the best book in Government and Political Science in 2001. Other work includes, “State Court Defiance And The Limits of Supreme Court Authority, Williams v. Georgia Revisited,” Yale Law Journal (1994), “Give Me Security or Give Me Death,” in Comparative Politics and the War on Terror (2005), and “The Selection and Appointment of Magistrates in England and Wales,” University of Toledo Law Review (1992).
 
Official travel advice from the Norwegian government: General advice against international travel until August 20. Possibility for eased restrictions to certain countries after July 20.

Good, as the England trip in July wasn't going to happen anyway, because now I know I can get my money back for plane tickets. Either from the airlines or from travel insurance.
 
That probably breaks a whole lot more than lockdown rules alone. I remember a travelling rave used to turn up in a fleet of convertables in a small town in Yorkshire every year or so, get into a disused factory, start blasting away at about 3 in the morning, then pack up and drive off within 2 hours, at a guess to the next party venue on the route. It was weird. The next day it was like nothing had ever happened, no police turned up, except nobody within any of the neighbouring streets had had much sleep. The fleet of ravers were obviously used to the routine.
 
Brigantium said:
That probably breaks a whole lot more than lockdown rules alone. I remember a travelling rave used to turn up in a fleet of convertables in a small town in Yorkshire every year or so, get into a disused factory, start blasting away at about 3 in the morning, then pack up and drive off within 2 hours, at a guess to the next party venue on the route. It was weird. The next day it was like nothing had ever happened, no police turned up, except nobody within any of the neighbouring streets had had much sleep. The fleet of ravers were obviously used to the routine.
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Thats fucked up. It would be hard to get a proper buzz on if ye kept movin around. Or maybe it would be a better buzz, who knows. I'd give it a shot. Ive been to a few illegal raves in Belfast, always good craic and the organisers always brought bins and we all tidied up after.
In other corona news, theres a video circulating on the internet of 6 girls beatin the tar out of each other in the middle of the road 300 yards from my house. Traffic stopped in both directions.
 
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