Blaze touring issues?

Discussion in 'Maiden Chat' started by chaosapiant, Sep 7, 2018.

  1. Formula409

    Formula409 Invader

    Yeah, that's probably right. And there was most likely also a conscious choice to go in a different direction - to move away from the operatic "spandex metal" 80's sound and trying to sound fresh with a different type of singer. Not saying it was the right choice...
     
  2. Magnus

    Magnus Ancient Mariner

    Not sure that was a joke.
     
  3. Spambot

    Spambot Educated Fool

    When was this approximately?

    Actually, it would be quite shitty from Nicko to make that comment no matter when. Then again, Nicko does seem like emotionally "shoot first, ask later" kind of guy, just remembered his comment about Bruce on X-Factor release party.
     
  4. srfc

    srfc Ancient Mariner

    I believe it was after the end of the VXI tour, at one of the last dates of the tour in Brazil, Maiden didn't play an encore. The excuse that was put out at the time was that the crowd didn't call for one, but apparently they didn't play one as members of the band were disgusted with how bad Blaze's performance was.
     
  5. Ruflux

    Ruflux Educated Fool

    Well, we know from a recent interview the band already knew the reunion was happening in Japan in November 1998, so I'm not really convinced that was the reason. I think they just weren't feeling it. Part of it may have been that Blaze was likely the one person who didn't know he was about to be replaced by Bruce next year and that soured the rest of the band's mood.
     
  6. Luisma

    Luisma Years Wasted

    Virtual XI World Tour - December 2, 1998 – They didn't play the encore. Steve wrote a note in the official website stating that the crowd wasn't loud enough. Blaze says in his book (Blaze Bayley - At The End Of The Day) that he was ready to go back on, but the other members had left. This means they didn't play 'The Number Of The Beast', 'The Trooper' & 'Sanctuary'.
     
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  7. Iron Lurker

    Iron Lurker Educated Fool

    The one time I saw Blaze with Maiden was on the X Factor tour. They played a small club in Atlanta. Sorry to say Blaze was awful and he lost his voice towards the end of the set. He literally croaked his way through the encores. They were scheduled to play that same club for the Virtual XI tour but that never happened.
     
  8. chaosapiant

    chaosapiant Ancient Marinade

    Has anyone else heard the Bueno Vista bootleg from '98 with Blaze? He doesn't sound great, but not terrible, but the band is absolutely ripping through those tracks with such speed and power. At the very end Blaze yells about how they'd be back the following year. It's a shame that he was in a position where he was wrong and he had no idea.
     
  9. Forostar

    Forostar Ancient Mariner

    Yes. Some people complain it was too fast, but I am telling you, that was great! Glad I've seen that era.
     
  10. chaosapiant

    chaosapiant Ancient Marinade

    Nah, that shit is beastly. I wish i'd seen them with Blaze at least once.
     
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  11. Randalf

    Randalf Ancient Mariner

    I wonder if they had any kind of Ed-Huntour plans before Bruce's return and Blaze's departure came into play during VXI tour. Did they have any plans to promote the game+album with a tweaked VXI set and some rarities, perhaps more Di'Anno era stuff like Killers and Phantom thrown in etc.?

    Just a thought. Not sure if they even dared to plan that far before seeing how things worked out with Blaze's second tour - and eventually not too well, but yeah, just wondering.
     
  12. phantomoftheicarus

    phantomoftheicarus Nobody can ever hear him call

    I think that the tour was booked regardless because having a tour to promote a new game seems slightly odd to have to celebrate the return of your main singer, you would expect them to have a properly named reunion tour or something. So I think it was planned and they just rolled with it
     
  13. GhostofCain

    GhostofCain Ancient Mariner

    I beg to differ: songs played too fast, weak thin guitar sound, a singer that tried hard but was completely out of his depth... I saw them live with Blaze twice and I was really glad when it was finally over.
     
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  14. Forostar

    Forostar Ancient Mariner

    When you dislike fast music.
     
  15. TheTalisman

    TheTalisman Fågel

    It appears like that, Steve said they would be out touring in the summer of 1999 before making a new album:
    http://www.daveling.co.uk/doc-ironmaiden.htm#article
     
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  16. GhostofCain

    GhostofCain Ancient Mariner

    I love The Ramones. :p
     
  17. Forostar

    Forostar Ancient Mariner

    When you are intolerant of speed deviation from a studio version.
     
  18. GhostofCain

    GhostofCain Ancient Mariner

    I really like how The Ramones sped things up when they played live! :p
     
  19. Zare

    Zare sorry Zed



    I put a time-tagged link, in case it doesn't work, go 1:39:53, right in the middle of the encores, The Trooper. Everything looks great, Blaze isn't good on Trooper but quite OK (notice his in ear monitors), the show ends on a very high note.

    This is one of the best Blaze live performances with Maiden. Blaze had nothing to do with SA two date cancellations. Blaze's penultimate performance is also caught on pro-shot. It is of the same quality. So, Rio gig is 8.5k hall, Blaze is on the average/worse side and encores aren't there. Campinas gig is cancelled due to organization problems, Sao Paulo gig is not recorded, Curitiba is excellent, Chile they lost permission to play in, Argentina is excellent.

    All things considered I'd say Blaze grew (vocally) to the level where he pulls better in front of 50.000 than in front of 5.000.

    There's a lot that we don't know about this period. From the verified data we have, not everything fits in the same picture.
     
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  20. TheTalisman

    TheTalisman Fågel

    His voice wasn't much different 2 years later from that show, detuned though, so he doesn't have to strain himself:

    Even songs like The Clansmans and Sign of the Cross should have been detuned live (or recorded in a lower key from the beginning).

    Listen to Blaze at 6:00:

    That's how great he could have sounded on much of the material, if it had been in the right key.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2019 at 12:29 PM

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