What I get from this post is that Helloween mixed a bunch of stuff that has been done before. Nothing really new here. Which is my problem with Kai anyway, he's a great player but he's hardly original. Even Iron Savior is filled with Judas Priest ripoffs, though I'm aware that he hardly wrote the stuff on that album. But he did write Gamma Ray's music, and the amount of ripoffs by that band (and I've heard every album) is a bit shocking. At one point I think they even began to ripoff themselves. And since you mentioned, I don't really like power metal drums.
Kai Hansen has indeed become less original in the last 10 years, and had not much to do with the Priest influences in Iron Savior. But we're talking 1985-86 here and
Walls of Jericho really brought a fresh new style. I disagree strongly that it has been done before. Yes he mixed some stuff that had been done before, but it's not just the mix. The vibe, energy and use of harmony in the guitars at such speed made big impact.
Listen to this:
The aggression, the speed (and the melodies
within the riffs). I don't think that was done before like this.
The drive from 4:53 and onwards is hard to match by any band. Also, the bass in Helloween is pretty unique in metal. The way Markus Grosskopf waves his melodic patterns in Helloween is a strong and original feat.
You can dislike the voice, the production, the lyrics, hell, even the music if you're not into such energetic and raw stuff. But I don't think you can take away the credit for how this changed the metal scene.
Now despite all of this, there is material that I like. Both Keeper albums are good, The Dark Ride has cool moments, Heading For Tomorrow is the best GR record
The debut album the best record? Alright, every one his own preference.
, and Rebellion In Dreamland is epic.
Absolutely.
Sail On would be my favorite song.
I don't like it much myself. Very different music as well, but the vocals annoy be a bit on this track.
Though not as bad as Helloween's out of key singing, unoriginal speed metal and crappy uninteresting lyrics.
We keep disagreeing but at least the hard rock encyclopedia are in my line when it comes to the importance of Helloween's role.