18th Studio Album discussion

There's a lot of truth in this, never seen it expressed like that.
I agree, it is why he belongs in Maiden as the frontman, he was born for this role.
When he runs alone with his own ideas, he becomes overenthusiastic but the outcomes sometimes come across as you say it - unfinished.

Yes, if you can get very enthusiastic, that's both an advantage and a disadvantage. On the one hand, it gives you energy, but on the other, it can also happen that you believe a bit too early that you have created a masterpiece.
 
Surprising things for this band left in the can
A tour with all rare songs
A tour with only songs since reunion
A new album
Play a whole classic album maybe seventh son but i dont see the point
And a new album.
 
Maybe they'll make one last album and go on a farewell tour, with a 'one song per album' theme.That would be cool.Also they should get Blaze with them to sing the 2 songs from X-Factor and Virtual...a man can only dream...
I would also like Blaze to be an opener band, it's something they should do, if he accepts. Guest musicians, Steve said it's something they could do, he can't say now. If only this tour's theme was for all eras. But it would kind of atypical for Maiden, but not unlikely. Playing Blaze era songs during a hypothetical Part 2 of the new tour would be something. Replacing his songs with live versions for the comp. albums was logical given the current lineup.

He also said they won't do a farewell tour, but let's see. Because of the number of classics, I'm really skeptical about the ''one song per album'' tour, but it's a very cool idea. I've always liked it. Come to think of it, it could work for a 3rd leg of RFYL tour! Combining new album with another theme, I guess too.
I agree, it is why he belongs in Maiden as the frontman, he was born for this role.
When he runs alone with his own ideas, he becomes overenthusiastic but the outcomes sometimes come across as you say it - unfinished.
Well, it's not everything up to the vocalist, right. With his solo music, he writes and creates what interests him the most, with the chosen style and length of the songs. He can like and view them how he wants, ofc. He needs to be creative and enthusiastic, considering his career.
 
Surprising things for this band left in the can
A tour with all rare songs
A tour with only songs since reunion
A new album
Play a whole classic album maybe seventh son but i dont see the point
Yep:

- tour with deep cuts (Nicko and Dave have discussed this in the past, iirc).
- tour with 90's songs.
- tour around the Reunion albums (if we don't count the 2010 tour).

New album tour won't be a surprise. They can definitely do only Reunion songs, if they want. Deep cuts tour or only epics tour won't happen. Playing a whole classic album too, they had many chances for that (ex. 2012 tour).
 
Yep:

- tour with deep cuts (Nicko and Dave have discussed this in the past, iirc).
- tour with 90's songs.
- tour around the Reunion albums (if we don't count the 2010 tour).

New album tour won't be a surprise. They can definitely do only Reunion songs, if they want. Deep cuts tour or only epics tour won't happen. Playing a whole classic album too, they had many chances for that (ex. 2012 tour).
90s i think is this tour. If you want to see x factor and virtual xi songs blaze is performing this songs. I went to last tour....and the dont sound even close to maiden.
 
Yep:

- tour with deep cuts (Nicko and Dave have discussed this in the past, iirc).
- tour with 90's songs.
- tour around the Reunion albums (if we don't count the 2010 tour).

New album tour won't be a surprise. They can definitely do only Reunion songs, if they want. Deep cuts tour or only epics tour won't happen. Playing a whole classic album too, they had many chances for that (ex. 2012 tour).
Deep cuts and epics COULD BE 2025 tour. I dont see them playing a classic setlist.
 
Yep:

- tour with deep cuts (Nicko and Dave have discussed this in the past, iirc).
- tour with 90's songs.
- tour around the Reunion albums (if we don't count the 2010 tour).

New album tour won't be a surprise. They can definitely do only Reunion songs, if they want. Deep cuts tour or only epics tour won't happen. Playing a whole classic album too, they had many chances for that (ex. 2012 tour).
I noticed when watching them live in 2010 that when they do several reunion songs in a row, the repeated slow intros become energy drainers. Some slow intros are great in a 2 hour show. But too many and the momentum gets squandered even if all the songs are good.
 
I mostly agree with this, although I am iffy on whether Nicko could actually pull off studio recording. It seems like there's a lot of stuff he is physically unable to do, even with unlimited takes/studio magic. I also interpreted Bruce's comments as them maybe intending on eventually going into the studio (with Nicko), but I'm skeptical that this will work out.

Also lots of possibilities including Nicko helping come up with drum parts for Simon to play, Nicko playing on 9/10 songs, or just a couple songs, etc.

But could that be something that the band really wants? Some songs with Nicko on the album and others with Simon and then the big discussion around the new album will be the comparison. I would find that rather unfortunate.
 
I noticed when watching them live in 2010 that when they do several reunion songs in a row, the repeated slow intros become energy drainers. Some slow intros are great in a 2 hour show. But too many and the momentum gets squandered even if all the songs are good.
I'm not sure I can agree, it depends, some Reunion era songs are not with that long intros. TFP tour had 5 songs with slow and long intros and it was good. The 2010 tour had a lot in a row (4+ ,iirc), but I think they could have swapped just one or two.
But could that be something that the band really wants? Some songs with Nicko on the album and others with Simon and then the big discussion around the new album will be the comparison. I would find that rather unfortunate.
This. Who wants this.?
 
I'm not sure I can agree, it depends, some Reunion era songs are not with that long intros. TFP tour had 5 songs with slow and long intros and it was good. The 2010 tour had a lot in a row (4+ ,iirc), but I think they could have swapped just one or two.
Maybe it depends on the shows we saw. In 2010 I saw the Dublin show, which was great, energetic and indoors. And I saw the outdoor festival Sonisphere UK show. The weather was overcast and the festival more generally sucked in terms of location and bill. So maybe I wasn't in the zone, so to speak.

But I recall watching the show 14 years ago and thinking this mid-set run of songs started to drag...

Dance of Death
The Reincarnation of Benjamin Breeg
These Colours Don't Run
Blood Brothers
Wildest Dreams
No More Lies
Brave New World

This is sequence they were played in. I love all of these songs. But when I watched them all played back to back (except for Colours and Dreams) you had x5 modern Maiden songs all composed or part-composed by Harris. All with a certain superficial but notable similarity in length and build-up structure.

A build-up intro works brilliantly live if it features in a few songs per set. Not every song or every other song.

I thought the 2006 AMOLAD set flowed better than the 2010 set, because AMOLAD has a good flow track-to-track.
 
Maybe it depends on the shows we saw. In 2010 I saw the Dublin show, which was great, energetic and indoors. And I saw the outdoor festival Sonisphere UK show. The weather was overcast and the festival more generally sucked in terms of location and bill. So maybe I wasn't in the zone, so to speak.

But I recall watching the show 14 years ago and thinking this mid-set run of songs started to drag...

Dance of Death
The Reincarnation of Benjamin Breeg
These Colours Don't Run
Blood Brothers
Wildest Dreams
No More Lies
Brave New World

This is sequence they were played in. I love all of these songs. But when I watched them all played back to back (except for Colours and Dreams) you had x5 modern Maiden songs all composed or part-composed by Harris. All with a certain superficial but notable similarity in length and build-up structure.

A build-up intro works brilliantly live if it features in a few songs per set. Not every song or every other song.

I thought the 2006 AMOLAD set flowed better than the 2010 set, because AMOLAD has a good flow track-to-track.
It's fascinating how different individual tastes can be. I would've absolutely adored that entire segment (swap Wildest Dreams with something like Different World and it would've been perfection for me). The BNW to AMOLAD Harris (co-)written songs are one of the biggest reasons why I'm a Maiden fan in the first place, can't get enough of that.
 
It could be a good topic for the Maiden blasphemy thread, but being both a big fan of the reunion era and having seen the show myself in person (in addition to several bootlegs years after the fact), I think the 2010 setlist was kinda ill-conceived. It gets a lot of (well deserved) credit for giving the reunion era much needed attention, especially considering the last expansive tour they had done in North America for a new album had been Brave New World - most audiences had not heard a single song off Dance of Death or A Matter of Life and Death prior to the 2010 tour. But the actual selection of songs and sequence of songs is just so off. It seems like they pretty much just went with the singles and "obvious" choices from those albums without any consideration given to flow or whether that selection of songs made for a good mix. I think the band has gotten a lot a better about integrating new material since then and would be curious to see how they would handle this kind of setlist today. I also don't know if I think it was a good idea in the first place to have an onslaught of 2010s era material anyway. I think there is a way to give new material proper attention while also not alienating the casual fans, which the band demonstrates on the Book of Souls, Legacy of the Beast, and even Future Past tours.

I would have dropped Wildest Dreams and No More Lies, replacing them with an 80s classic that maybe didn't get played in 2008/2009 and a different song off Dance of Death (something more energetic like Rainmaker). I also would have swapped Brave New World for something off AMOLAD since, again, Brave New World already had the most expansive North American tour of the reunion era and the title track also got some play on Give Me Ed. The setlist lacks a classic Harris epic (No More Lies and Blood Brothers aren't it) so that would have been a good spot for FTGGOG I think.

You could have also gotten away with 6 reunion era songs (Wicker Man, Ghost of the Navigator, Blood Brothers, Dance of Death, Breeg, Colours) + El Dorado and then three more classics to balance out the set. I like the idea of focusing more on new material but energy level is also important and the 2010 setlist doesn't have the same vibe as playing all of AMOLAD in 06 did.
 
I would have dropped Wildest Dreams and No More Lies, replacing them with an 80s classic that maybe didn't get played in 2008/2009 and a different song off Dance of Death (something more energetic like Rainmaker). I also would have swapped Brave New World for something off AMOLAD since, again, Brave New World already had the most expansive North American tour of the reunion era and the title track also got some play on Give Me Ed. The setlist lacks a classic Harris epic (No More Lies and Blood Brothers aren't it) so that would have been a good spot for FTGGOG I think.
This. I never cared for either of those 2 songs and Rainmaker and FTGGOG would work much, much better. I think they possibly omitted the latter because of the tour theme (it would look sorta out of place with TFF set). Luckily it came back during LOTB.
 
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