The Official Book of Souls Tour 2016 Thread (Warning: Spoilers within!)

Realistic... but a bit unimaginative, isn't it? I guess the band knows it is one of their last tours and they have it in them to make a few last efforts in terms of song choice.
I can see a kind of boxset being released (Eddie's archive pt 2) and a tour in the vein of Gimme 'Ed till I'm Dead to promote it. I would like them to play "Be Quick..." and "BYDTTS" to illustrate the 90s.

Steve's choices pattern don't allow me to be imaginative :D
I think they'll try to remember the 90s on this 2nd leg as well, but i can't see Be Quick here (it'll be odd in the middle of the set, Bruce can't sing it on the encore opener and IESF is locked as opener). Bring Your Daughter is, indeed, an interest option to replace either Blood Brothers or Wasted Years (they haven't played BYD as a closer). ATSS is the vanilla option to remember the 90s: easy to play, they rehearsed it not too long ago, a decent crowd reaction...it fits

So as Die With Your Boots On, but i never saw Maiden playing a huge new song on a 2nd leg. If they're conservative on the 1st leg, imagine on the 2nd. Regardless, it's a more viable option than 22. Both The Clairvoyant and TETMD could be underdogs here, along with Man on the Edge or Futureal, if they're into the 90s
 
I wouldn't call this tour's setlist conservative (by Maiden's standards). We got COTD, Powerslave, Blood Brothers and Wasted Years an an album tour, which is pretty cool. The most conservative that Maiden ever were was the ME tour. Apart from ATSS and Prisoner, it was pretty obvious what they will play.
 
I think it's about time Killers makes a comeback.

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The most conservative that Maiden ever were was the ME tour. Apart from ATSS and Prisoner, it was pretty obvious what they will play.

By album tour standards, TFF (second leg) takes the cake, though. The closest thing it had to deep cuts were Blood Brothers and Running Free. The former hadn't been performed since 2001, if you discard the first TFF leg, the latter since 2005. Even with my notoriously relaxed attitude towards setlists, having that along with only five new songs felt a bit naff. Especially after seeing them on the first leg, with that daredevil 2000's set. To top it off, En Vivo!, apart from the new songs, didn't have any tracks that hadn't appeared on the previous two live albums other than Running Free.

There you have it, a setlist complaint from me, five years later.
 
Yes something like that. A small chamber orchestra (approx. 25 members: 3 first violins, 3 second violins, 2 violas, 2 cellos, 1 double bass, 2 flutes, 2 bassoons, 2 clarinets, 2 horns, 2 trumpets, a percussionist and a pianist). They could fit that behind Nicko on a typical IM stage.
That would honestly be all they need for what they would want to do. They don't need to bring in the LSO or anything like that.
That would be really amazing to see. At the very least, hopefully they do it as a one time thing and record the show for a DVD/CD release.
 
I think TFF 2011 was the only setlist that really warranted the "Maiden play it safe" criticism. Can't help but think that the reception of AMOLAD 2006 and TFF 2010 scared them away from really getting adventurous with the setlist. It was also the lowest number of songs (5) played from the newest album for that lineup, maybe of them all. So glad I saw the first leg of that tour and I was less disappointed that they weren't coming back to the USA for a full tour when I saw the 2011 setlist.
 
Next year is gonna be 35 years of The Number of the Beast, I don't know if that'll affect the setlist or not. Probably not. 2016 had plenty of album anniversarys that had no effect on the 2016 setlist.
 
i saw the ft. lauderdale show on this last tour and it was amazing! my first time seeing Maiden because of money and stuff but holy crap did Nicko kill it! tried to make to his rib joint before the show to meet him but it was too far and i was saving up for beers at the gig anyway haha. it's okay cause i've been before and the man makes a mean slab of ribs!
 
The 1st leg of TFF tour was the best ever. The show at San Bernardino amphitheater was my favorite show ever. Oh my god what a night! I digress: would love to see paschendale or DOD added to this 2nd leg.
Realistically I think they may switch out one of the BOS songs, and One classic if anything. My guess is COTD for RTTH and Tears for Shadows.
 
I'd almost bet that they are gonna call next years tour Legacy of the Beast and play a few songs from NOTB since it's its 35th anniversary.
 
I'd almost bet that they are gonna call next years tour Legacy of the Beast and play a few songs from NOTB since it's its 35th anniversary.
that would mean new stage set, drapes etc...financially and pragmatically it makes the most sense for them to carry on with the same stage show. Maybe swapping in a couple NOTB tracks, but that's about it.
 
Everyone seems to be assuming any changes to the next leg will be the classics swapped for other classics, but isn't equally likely/possible for newer songs to be swapped in? Even if, say, Children, Trooper, and Powerslave are the only changes to the set, it's not set in stone that they have to be swapped for other classics. They could always change those 3 to Coming Home, Rainmaker, and BTATS, for instance.
 
What fresh fuckery is this regarding Killers? It is an absolute tune, makes my top 10 easy and its a complete fucking travesty that they didnt do it on Early Days or ME tours. Is this the 'what annoys me' thread, cos that fuckin annoyed me.
 
I wouldn't call this tour's setlist conservative (by Maiden's standards). We got COTD, Powerslave, Blood Brothers and Wasted Years an an album tour, which is pretty cool. The most conservative that Maiden ever were was the ME tour. Apart from ATSS and Prisoner, it was pretty obvious what they will play.

By album tour standards, TFF (second leg) takes the cake, though. The closest thing it had to deep cuts were Blood Brothers and Running Free. The former hadn't been performed since 2001, if you discard the first TFF leg, the latter since 2005. Even with my notoriously relaxed attitude towards setlists, having that along with only five new songs felt a bit naff. Especially after seeing them on the first leg, with that daredevil 2000's set. To top it off, En Vivo!, apart from the new songs, didn't have any tracks that hadn't appeared on the previous two live albums other than Running Free.

There you have it, a setlist complaint from me, five years later.

It all depends on what's your base of comparison.
Personally, i don't have complains at all about Maiden's setlist choices. When I see how safe Metallica plays with their set choices, Maiden is a true daredevil on every single tour. But I can see a pattern on Maiden's albums tours. Let's take, for an example, the set of the last 4 albuns tours:

TBoS: 6 new songs, 4 "not-overplayed" songs
TFF (2nd leg): 5 new songs, 4 "not-overplayed" songs
AMOLAD (1st leg): 10 new songs
AMOLAD (2nd leg): 5 new songs, 1 "not-overplayed" song
DoD: 6 new songs, 2 "not-overplayed" songs

Except the 1st leg of the AMOLAD tour, the TBoS followed the pattern (even considering the "not-overplayed" songs were played at least in 2009). I'm 100% OK with this, but i'm analysing this on the thread point of view, of resting classics and play obscure songs (to the average fan. I have a friend that likes Maiden and went ot the concert with me, but would be completely lost if the band plays Dream of Mirrors or Longest Day). On this point of view, basically all the tours are conservative, the "bonus" songs are expectable or were played in a 10 years span, with the exception of Gimme Ed..., the 1st leg of AMOLAD and the 1st leg of TFF (the history tours is a whole different matter)
 
Let's compare the setlist of this album tour and that of the previous one (based on En Vivo but taking into account that it underwent changes from its original form) and relish on how methodically they are designed. ;)

1. Satellite 15 / The Final Frontier - 1. If Eternity Should Fail
2. El Dorado - 2. Speed of Light
In both cases, the openers of the album. The Necropolis bit tend to create a first pause - which the segue of "TFF" into "El Dorado" managed to avoid - but I think it is a question of equipment (tuning? I haven't checked yet).

3. 2 Minutes to Midnight - 3. Children of the Damned
4. The Talisman (!) - 4. Tears of a Clown
5. Coming Home
An oldie or classic, followed by the slower song from the new album. (!) Remember that "The Talisman" used to be between "TETMD" and "FOTD" when the tour started in Russia in February 2011)

6. Dance of Death - 5. The Red and the Black
The first big complex one.

7. The Trooper - 6. The Trooper
'Nuff said :D (a good way to inject some power and speed back into the show)

8. The Wicker Man - 7. Powerslave
9. Blood Brothers - 8. Death or Glory
10. When the Wild Wind Blows - 9. The Book of Souls
The "thick of it", in which the climax is represented by the long, complex song from the new album (or one of those, when there are several on the album, in this case "TRATB" and "TBOS" - "EOTC" not being eligible for live performance).

11. The Evil That Men Do - 10. Hallowed Be Thy Name
(11'. The Talisman - in the first dates of the tour)
A classic that more or less has the same dynamic and crowd-pleasing function as "The Trooper" but a bit longer and/or more complex.

12. Fear of the Dark - 11. Fear of the Dark
13. Iron Maiden - 12. Iron Maiden
The "mandadory" end sequence of any Iron Maiden set: it seems that, while "Iron Maiden" has always occupied this spot, "FOTD" - after being played in the late middle of the set when it was new in 1992/93 - has grown to accompany it "naturally" (like ZZ Top's "Jesus Just Left Chicago" with "Waiting for the Bus" - though in this case, it is more of a technical coincidence they have exploited). Can someone research for how long it has been at this spot? From memory, it must be since "the X Factour" (20 years...).

Encores
14. The Number of the Beast - 13. The Number of the Beast
Another "mandatory" one - with the first comers and classic-oriented members of the audience, but still a shoe-in to get the crowd pleased and excited. The only time it was put aside was in the first leg of the AMOLAD tour. I feel that this song is just "predictable" or "boring" on paper only, not when you are in the crowd.

15. Hallowed Be Thy Name - 14. Blood Brothers
16. Running Free - 15. Wasted Years
This part seems to be where Maiden has been the most original compared to the previous tour, even though each song can be labelled a 'classic' (even "BB" for a lot of Maiden fans - I for one still consider it a rather new song, but it is starting to change ;) ). The only analytical aspect I can make out of these for the moment is that there is one song which is about relatively 'passively' appreciating it ("HBTN", "Wasted Years") and another one which requires more crowd participation ("Running Free", "Blood Brothers"), and that this order has been reversed from one tour to another.

To conclude, this comparison shows how well thought-out Maiden setlists are in so far as they offer a mix of predictability and surprise, while taking into account at the same time the physical capacities of the musicians (see "The Talisman", displaced because it was too much for Bruce's voice at this moment of the concert).
As we are discussing setlists, here is something I posted at the beginning of the tour. There is definitely a pattern in their album setlists.
 
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