USA Politics

[Yax]

we have a left biased media, certainly TV.

I would like some data on that.

That being said, reality tends to have a non-rightwing bias regarding some things (in the U.S., explaining how tariffs work would be "left biased"), and any mentions of human rights (that defacto are law) are quite often labelled as just being "left-based" in the current political climate all over west.

 

[GhostofCain]

The name calling from the left is more visible than from the right in the UK as we have a left biased media, certainly TV.

Left-biased media???

When it comes to UK newspapers, the majority are unashamedly right wing (The Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Sun, etc.) and in some cases blatantly xenophobic (The Daily Mail, Daily Express).

Regarding TV news, I still have to find a left-leaning channel to watch, so perhaps you can recommend me one.

 

[Fozzie]

I would like some data on that.

Try the BBC , maybe Channel 4 they tend to lean that way although would never admit it.

That being said, reality tends to have a non-rightwing bias (in the U.S., explaining how tariffs work would be "left biased").

Yeah i forgot , the left is all reality isn`t it, no propaganda over there.

 

[Yax]

Yeah i forgot , the left is all reality isn`t it, no propaganda over there.

I think you've made it clear that you consider non-blatant right to be "biased". And there are loads of studies on that, how people tend to consider reporting contrary to their own beliefs biased.

 

[Fozzie]

Left-biased media???

When it comes to UK newspapers, the majority are unashamedly right wing (The Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Sun, etc.) and in some cases blatantly xenophobic (The Daily Mail, Daily Express).

Regarding TV news, I still have to find a left-leaning channel to watch, so perhaps you can recommend me one.

BBC , Channel 4 as i mentioned above. Guardian i suppose in written press but yes there are many right wing papers, i should have highlighted the mainly TV part of my post.

 

[Fozzie]

I think you've made it clear that you consider non-blatant right to be "biased". And there are loads of studies on that, how people tend to consider reporting contrary to their own beliefs biased.

It`s just the right then who fall in to this category i presume.

 

[GhostofCain]

BBC , Channel 4 as i mentioned above. Guardian i suppose in written press but yes there are many right wing papers, i should have highlighted the mainly TV part of my post.

Channel 4 might have a slight left-wing leaning, but the BBC certainly does not (I have been watching it for decades).

 

[Yax]

It`s just the right then who fall in to this category i presume.

In a world where you have essentially gone "BBC and Channel 4 are BIASED!" while, at least according to GoC, have tons of more "right-wing" leaning outlets, I think you can do the math. We live in a world where everything, (almost) everything in terms of western political systems, has gone towards the right for 30+ years, yet we are always talking about leftist-bias. It is strange.

 

[GhostofCain]

In a world where you have essentially gone "BBC and Channel 4 are BIASED!" while, at least according to GoC, have tons of more "right-wing" leaning outlets, I think you can do the math. We live in a world where everything, (almost) everything in terms of western political systems, has gone towards the right for 30+ years, yet we are always talking about leftist-bias. It is strange.

At this rate people would be saying that Margaret Thatcher was a moderate centrist politician if not clearly a Marxist!

 

[Fozzie]

At this rate people would be saying that Margaret Thatcher was a moderate centrist politician if not clearly a Marxist!

She is a bit before my time so no comment there.

 

[Fozzie]

Channel 4 might have a slight left-wing leaning, but the BBC certainly does not (I have been watching it for decades).

Agree to disagree springs to mind , we might have a different view of left wing leanings i suspect.

 

[GhostofCain]

Agree to disagree springs to mind , we might have a different view of left wing leanings i suspect.

I dread to think where you place the political centre!

Yes, we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[Fozzie]

In a world where you have essentially gone "BBC and Channel 4 are BIASED!" while, at least according to GoC, have tons of more "right-wing" leaning outlets, I think you can do the math. We live in a world where everything, (almost) everything in terms of western political systems, has gone towards the right for 30+ years, yet we are always talking about leftist-bias. It is strange.

I never said that as you well know that but don`t you let facts get in the way of twisting words. Antifa don`t get much air time on the BBC when they turn up on our streets.

 

[Fozzie]

I dread to think where you place the political centre!

Yes, we will have to agree to disagree.

I did try to stay away from this thread but it got the better of me today. Back to disagreeing about Maiden i reckon now.

 

[GhostofCain]

I did try to stay away from this thread but it got the better of me today. Back to disagreeing about Maiden i reckon now.

Or agreeing, like on Powerslave or Paschendale being superb.

 

[Yax]

I never said that as you well know that

Here are the receipts.

we have a left biased media, certainly TV.

I would like some data on that.

Try the BBC , maybe Channel 4 they tend to lean that way although would never admit it.

 

[Fozzie]

Here are the receipts.

Left biased and lean that way i said, not shouting BIASED as you put it.

You don`t like or agree with my views that`s fine , i aren`t keen on yours ,it`s run it`s cause now as this subject always does. No one is changing their opinion and both think they are correct , it`s a well worn path.

 

[Yax]

Left biased and lean that way i said, not shouting BIASED as you put it.

Ah, I didn't mean the Capsed thing as a direct quote - I should have said "paraphrased".

 

[Fozzie]

Or agreeing, like on Powerslave or Paschendale being superb.

Spot on and i did mean in general going back to disagreeing on Maiden as a bit of a joke,it wasn`t aimed at you directly which is probably how it incorrectly read.

 

[GhostofCain]

Spot on and i did mean in general going back to disagreeing on Maiden as a bit of a joke,it wasn`t aimed at you directly which is probably how it incorrectly read.

I did not take it personally, but just wanted to refer to your recent message about those songs on the Senjutsu thread.