Which songs will never be played anymore?

Apology accepted. :)

As I said, I have seen all of Maiden's DVDs and of course it is not even 10% the experience of a live show but I do get to see how the band is live on the DVDs. Regarding my judgement of the setlists, of course I would like to see all of the 80s classics, they're the songs I grew up listening to! But earlier when we discussed I put my feelings aside and tried to give an objective opinion about what I think Maiden should do in regard to all their fans, young and old. This my objective opinion. My subjective opinion, of course, would be: play all the songs I like! :)

Habberdasher said:
We'd all be in epileptic fits if we experience Maiden live like they are on the DVD. I don't think Rock in Rio has a shot that is onscreen for more than 0.3 seconds!
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That's right! It gets right towards the middle, though.

Reumeren said:
Well. Flight 666 had very good quality and editing, but I don't think Steve was in charge though =)
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Flight 666 is simply perfect when it comes to visual quality! I can't wait to watch it HD!
 
Now that that kerfuffle has been extinguished, let's get back to Pilau's point. Let me summarize, I think his point was that it would be nice to see Maiden switch up the setlist, as even someone who's never been to a Maiden show is already sick of certain songs live.
Perhaps a good way to address this is for the tour to have a standard setlist, but built in are some variables, perhaps the 3rd song is always from the Di'anno era, but rotates btw Wratchild, Murders, Killers, and Prowler.
Or the 7th song is always from 7th son, but it could be Infinite Dreams, or it could be the Clairvoyant or (gasp) Only the Good Die Young.
Maybe the eighth song rotates between Navigator, No More Lies, and Blood Brothers.
Throw in either Revelations or Still Life in the eleven spot and you've got not only a great setlist, but enough songs to fill out 2 discs on the live album without a 11th copy of NoTB, RTTH, IM and FOTD. It would sell more copies, Rod!
 
Reumeren said:
Well. Flight 666 had very good quality and editing, but I don't think Steve was in charge though =)
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It's true. The concert is totally different. I went to one for the SBIT tour & it was amazing to say the least. So different from a lousy yet awesome DVD. Although I wasn't totally conscious during most of the performance due to people around me smoking pot. -_- I still feel dooped.

Either way, my experience while I was partially high (thanks a lot, potheads !) was 90% better than any DVD. If I wasn't in such a haze, it would've been at, like, 100 or 110%. 5000%. MUCH BETTER. I was so close to catching Bruce's hat. . . Why did that emo kid have to push me out of the way ?



ANYWAY, I'm pretty certain Maiden will still be playing most of their songs (with the exception of the ones that they have never played to begin with). It just depends on the concert you attend.
 
pilau said:
But earlier when we discussed I put my feelings aside and tried to give an objective opinion about what I think Maiden should do in regard to all their fans, young and old.
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The point is: The fans got the recent songs on recent tours. Well they actually get recent songs on all album tours. It's logical that Maiden wants to make a mix of

A. latest album songs
B. standard classics
C. recent songs
D. and (sometimes) a nice surprise (a song which hasn't been played in quite some years).

Everybody will have a favourite category, and you tend to find a change in C the most important for the fans.

What's the objective aspect of this opinion?

Besides, in my previous posts I showed that Maiden gives attention to recent songs already.

In regard of the next tour, there's a huge chance we'll get some AMOLAD and DOD stuff, but that's nothing new. Maiden always plays a couple of one- and two-but-last album songs. I don't expect more than 3 songs from AMOLAD, and no more than 2 from DOD.

Now to what Habberdasher says. I agree with his point:

I rather think Maiden should play more rare older songs, since they always tend to play the same classics.
But they got that chance at the previous tour already.

So, I have no problem with A & C, and imo the amount of D songs can become bigger and B smaller.
 
I don't know if that's my English or whatever but I'll try to explain my point again. The objective aspect to my point is that Maiden should have, on the DotR tour and later album tours, refreshed their live staples and should have replaced some (or even all) 80s songs with 90s songs, thus creating a new group B. This way we get the most out of the 'recent material' concept.

Group A: latest album songs.
Group B: 90s classics
Group C: recent songs (to me that means BNW, DoD and AMoLaD)
Group D: surprise song; now that the 80s classic won't be regularly played anymore, they can fall into this category.


Sorry, I forgot something very important - The 90s staples induction should persist on all later album tours.
 
I don't know, when I go to a Maiden show, I want to hear my share of 80's classics, too.

It doesn't need to be much. Three is enough. But I'm not going home without them. The setlist on the Dance of Death tour was alright in that aspect, except I would have picked different individual songs, but that's just me.

I also don't think cold logic works with Maiden setlists. You can't work out a setlist beforehand. We tried it every time, and every time it failed. The Maiden boys do what they feel like doing and don't like to have it dictated by some denominator that seemingly exists according to older habits.
 
Perun said:
I don't know, when I go to a Maiden show, I want to hear my share of 80's classics, too.
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This is why I have Ye Olde Groupe D in my 'plan'.

Perun said:
I also don't think cold logic works with Maiden setlists. You can't work out a setlist beforehand. We tried it every time, and every time it failed. The Maiden boys do what they feel like doing and don't like to have it dictated by some denominator that seemingly exists according to older habits.
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Yeah, I guess you are right. But I still think that what I said is what they should have done, especially in view of the then-forthcoming 80s tribute tour that is SBiT.
 
Forostar said:
A. latest album songs
B. standard classics
C. recent songs
D. and (sometimes) a nice surprise (a song which hasn't been played in quite some years).
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This seems perfectly reasonable to me. Although I'd be happy with whatever the boys give me. But it's about time more "rare" stuff get's played.
 
Forostar said:
I understand your point, pilau, and I respect it. I only don't see an objective aspect in it.
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Sure, man. Well at least I was able to get to you what I had in mind :)
 
pilau said:
Group B: 90s classics
Sorry, I forgot something very important - The 90s staples induction should persist on all later album tours.
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I know this is going to rile some people here up, but outside of the crazed die-hards on this site, there is not a lot of love for the 90s materials (outside of FOD) out there. And I'm friends with a guy who has the Eddie from POM tatooed on his the side of his neck. Any tour should have 2 songs from the 90s max--and I'm starting to get the impression that FOD may be on the list ad infinitum. So one more song from the 90s rotating each tour should be sufficient. That leaves more room from rare (or never before played live) tracks from the 80s. After all would you really rather hear AFTSS or ATG?
 
Well, you live in the US, and I am not sure if the people you mean are very representative folk.
Outside that world (and probably also inside: I know Americans on this forum who like this period as well) people tend to think more positive about that era. At least, outside the States, no concertdates had to be cancelled and Maiden attracted many people to gigs in the nineties.

Basically you can say that in the 90s, metal was not so dead in e.g. Europe & South America, when you compare this with the US.

Ever seen how an audience gets into a certain song called ATSS, or FOTD? Ever seen how people freak out (in a positive way) to songs like Sign of the Cross or The Clansman?
 
Well if Maiden want to prove me (and my possibly imaginary friends with similar views on the 90s) wrong, I'm all for them sprinkling some of these songs in. I just won't expect a full scale 90s tour like we just had with the recent tour for the 80s although I'm sure we could all come up with a pretty decent 90s-centric set list.
 
I don't think we'll see a full-scale 90s tour either, and that actually makes me somewhat sad.  I would really like it to go a little something like this:

Futureal
Bring Your Daughter... ....To the Slaughter
Lord of the Flies
The Clansman
Afraid to Shoot Strangers
Sign of the Cross
Man on the Edge
Fortunes of War
Fear of the Dark
Hallowed Be Thy Name
Iron Maiden
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The Number of the Beast
No Prayer For the Dying
Sanctuary
 
LooseCannon said:
I would really like it to go a little something like this:

...
The Clansman
...
Sign of the Cross
...
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I doubt you'll see both of those. Too many epics in one show. Agree, it would be great, but won't happen.
 
LooseCannon said:
I don't think we'll see a full-scale 90s tour either, and that actually makes me somewhat sad.  I would really like it to go a little something like this:

Futureal
Bring Your Daughter... ....To the Slaughter
Lord of the Flies
The Clansman
Afraid to Shoot Strangers
Sign of the Cross
Man on the Edge
Fortunes of War
Fear of the Dark
Hallowed Be Thy Name
Iron Maiden
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The Number of the Beast
No Prayer For the Dying
Sanctuary
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Here's my dream:

Be Quick or be Dead
Futureal
Tailgunner
No Prayer for the Dying
The Clansman
Afraid to Shoot Strangers
Man on the Edge
Public Enema Number One
Fortunes of War
The Aftermath
Sign of the Cross
Fear of the Dark
Iron Maiden
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Die With Your Boots On
The Educated Fool
Hallowed Be Thy Name
 
Very nice setlists there, Loosey and Per! :D

LooseCannon said:
Well, we saw how many at RiR?  But in the new era...less, I know.
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How many? Let's see...
SotC, The Clansman, DoM, FotD, HBTN. Five epics. LC's list has only four!

By the way, what song is ATG?
 
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