LooseCannon said:
You're right, I had forgotten about that. Which is dumb, since I saw both SotC and Clansman live on that tour myself...
Which songs will never be played anymore?
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You're right, I had forgotten about that. Which is dumb, since I saw both SotC and Clansman live on that tour myself...
SneakySneaky
Trooper
First let me say that I agree with Pilau on his views about the newer songs not being well represented. A song or two from the most recent albums (not including the latest album which the tour is about and obviously should be featured) is not representative. Give me 5 songs from the 90's-2000 era (not including FOTD which is by now equivalent to an 80's classic*) and then I'd agree that it's a fair amount of recent material. I don't really have a problem listening to "classics", but I would prefer it if they chose the ones they can actually play well. NOTB they simply can't handle live anymore, or Iron Maiden (ok, I know it has to be on the setlist) for instance. Wrathchild still sounds pretty good, so does the Trooper.
I really hope they play BTATS, These Colours Don't Run and Out of the Shadows from AMOLAD, Paschendale, Journeyman from DoD, and anything except Mercenary from BNW. Should we be lucky to see stuff from the Blaze era, I'd love Fortunes of War, Como Estais Amigos, Blood on the World's Hands to name a few.
I really hope they play BTATS, These Colours Don't Run and Out of the Shadows from AMOLAD, Paschendale, Journeyman from DoD, and anything except Mercenary from BNW. Should we be lucky to see stuff from the Blaze era, I'd love Fortunes of War, Como Estais Amigos, Blood on the World's Hands to name a few.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
SneakySneaky said:
Alright, let's see. On which album-tour(s) would you rather have seen a different setlist?
Which songs would you rather have seen removed, which would you have liked instead? When you give examples it's easier to see what we are talking about.
@Pilau, would you also do that? Thanks in advance.
SneakySneaky
Trooper
BNW tour: It would be nice to see a few more songs from the Blaze era. Just swap RTTH, NOTB and Wrathchild for any song from the era mentioned. Although I should say this. I think BNW tour setlist wasn't bad at all, had Ed Huntour not happened. Since the latter was filled with greatest hits, they could just omit the same ones again (or keep but a minimum few). It was only a year after, it's not like people would have forgotten how they sound live.
DoD tour: Again same thing. They had already done the GMETIAD(
) tour, so really any of the aforementioned songs could have been replaced, or not include Trooper and add something else from BNW.
AMOLAD tour: Now with this one I have absolutely nothing to add. I was really happy with the setlist they decided to play. I remember before finding out, how much I wished Paschendale or Journeyman would be included, but the whole album being played was just as good for me. The second leg though (before they announced Matter of the Beast) was plain awful though. Ditched 5 great songs just to add the standard stuff.
A Matter of the Beast: This I think was worse. I'm sorry, but it was supposed to celebrate AMOLAD's success and the NOTB anniversary. They said it would be 5 songs from each album and a few other classics. We did get 5 from AMOLAD (not the best ones, but that's just my personal view, I can't really complain about that), and 4(!!!) from NOTB. And apart from that, 3 of them had been played almost every (if not every) tour before that. Just adding Children of the Damned hardly seems an anniversary celebration.
Foro would you like me to name particular song replacements? I haven't got a problem, it's just that I think my point is mostly focused on what could have been omitted rather than what could have been included.
DoD tour: Again same thing. They had already done the GMETIAD(
) tour, so really any of the aforementioned songs could have been replaced, or not include Trooper and add something else from BNW. AMOLAD tour: Now with this one I have absolutely nothing to add. I was really happy with the setlist they decided to play. I remember before finding out, how much I wished Paschendale or Journeyman would be included, but the whole album being played was just as good for me. The second leg though (before they announced Matter of the Beast) was plain awful though. Ditched 5 great songs just to add the standard stuff.
A Matter of the Beast: This I think was worse. I'm sorry, but it was supposed to celebrate AMOLAD's success and the NOTB anniversary. They said it would be 5 songs from each album and a few other classics. We did get 5 from AMOLAD (not the best ones, but that's just my personal view, I can't really complain about that), and 4(!!!) from NOTB. And apart from that, 3 of them had been played almost every (if not every) tour before that. Just adding Children of the Damned hardly seems an anniversary celebration.
Foro would you like me to name particular song replacements? I haven't got a problem, it's just that I think my point is mostly focused on what could have been omitted rather than what could have been included.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
SneakySneaky said:
I see what you mean but remember that in the years before this tour we got many of those songs. In 1999 this line-up did 3 Blaze era songs. And in the BNW tour one of these was dropped and one other replaced by Sign of the Cross. So actually, in setlist-time, we got more Blaze era material than in 1999. Still I agree that I also would have preferred more of such songs instead of these classics. Maybe the band didn’t want to learn too many new songs, esp Adrian and Bruce would not only have to learn the BNW-songs and SOTC, but also a couple of more Blaze tracks.
SneakySneaky said:DoD tour: Again same thing. They had already done the GMETIAD(
Perhaps they didn’t do this because of the same “too much learning” reason that I made up.
Still, again I also would have liked it.
SneakySneaky said:
I guess they might have chosen (again) for the classics because this was a festival leg.
SneakySneaky said:
No it’s OK, I understand it better now. It’s a personal view (I agree with), and I guess I have been focussed too much on the word objective in pilau’s post. We know what we like ourselves best, but I find it more difficult when someone says that something is better for others (the band and/or the fans). I guess that’s why I made such a point of it.
____no5
Free Man
SneakySneaky said:
Nothing to add here
I remember being very happy with the Seventh Tour setlist, but it was the first tour I've witnessed, everything was new...
With the years, every surprise was gone, and that's why I was so happy with AMOLAD tour -at last something different
Now the only set-list standards they don't get me bored are 'Iron Maiden' & 'Hallowed be thy Name'
Habberdasher
Trooper
Quetzalcoatlus said:I remember being very happy with the Seventh Tour setlist, but it was the first tour I've witnessed, everything was new...
With the years, every surprise was gone, and that's why I was so happy with AMOLAD tour -at last something different
Now the only set-list standards they don't get me bored are 'Iron Maiden' & 'Hallowed be thy Name'
7th Son was alos my first time seeing Maiden live as well, but remember, even back then they were dipping into unexpected ground with Still Life, the Prisoner and even Killers (which they've barely played since then).
Instead of completely swapping songs, I don't see why Maiden can't add some variety into each tour, why not pick a setlist, but allow a couple of the tracks to be variables. An example, perhaps they decide that the 5th song is from POM, but it might be The Trooper, Revelations, Still Life or DWYBO, depending on the night, or maybe the 9th song is a Blaze-era song, but not the same one every single night of the tour. Surely these professionals could learn 20-25 songs for a tour, no?
This would make the live album released after the tour more exciting (from a set list persepctive) and if they didn't play a specific song the night you saw them, you get to hear it on the live album/DVD.
The Clairvoyant
Trooper
If they will play stuff from era blaze on the next tour I think they will play only one song from X-Factor,it's hard to think they will play some song from virtual XI.....
When Bruce talked about most recent albums I think he hinted to brave new world,dance of death and a matter of life and death.
From 90's I hope they will play something too from no prayer for the dying,even if there will be for sure fear of the dark.
Surely one song from seventh son of a seventh son will not miss,and the rest couple songs I think will be the usual songs : number of the beast,hallowed be thy name,run to the hills,the trooper,wrathchild and iron maiden.
So,clearly these songs are not in order :
- 5 or 6 songs from the new album
- 1 song from dance of death
- 1 song from brave new world
- 1 song from a matter of life and death
- fear of the dark
- 1 song from X-Factor(but a song from this album could miss)
- number of the beast
- hallowed be thy name
- run to the hills
- the trooper
- wrathchild
- iron maiden
- 1 song from seventh son of a seventh son
When Bruce talked about most recent albums I think he hinted to brave new world,dance of death and a matter of life and death.
From 90's I hope they will play something too from no prayer for the dying,even if there will be for sure fear of the dark.
Surely one song from seventh son of a seventh son will not miss,and the rest couple songs I think will be the usual songs : number of the beast,hallowed be thy name,run to the hills,the trooper,wrathchild and iron maiden.
So,clearly these songs are not in order :
- 5 or 6 songs from the new album
- 1 song from dance of death
- 1 song from brave new world
- 1 song from a matter of life and death
- fear of the dark
- 1 song from X-Factor(but a song from this album could miss)
- number of the beast
- hallowed be thy name
- run to the hills
- the trooper
- wrathchild
- iron maiden
- 1 song from seventh son of a seventh son
Habberdasher said:
No.
They never have; there's no reason to think they ever will.