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srfc said:
Re: Canada

Charles is the head of state is he not? I wonder will the brits still be allies of Trump if he continues to try and take one of the Kings realms.
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That's an interesting dilemma for the right wing media here. They love the royals but they also love Trump.
 
Re Project 2025:

Trump openly disavowed it, when he saw that it was largely unpopular with potential voters (not that it mattered in the end).

He proposed his own so called Agenda 47 which was nearly identical with Project 2025 in most major points. It has been clear for literal months that he'd be implementing Project 2025 and we're seeing it now.
 
So, Trump is off the reins. Tariffs, threats, etc. Mexico bowed down and agreed to send 10 000 troops to the border with U.S. I am pretty sure Trump's voters are clapping hands here. Yeah, that's how you do it! Also Panama agreed to U.S. demands.
As long as prices did not go up, Trump's a winner (cold hard fact). I think for those, who voted for Trump, closure of DEI programs and shut down of USAid is nowhere near a top of priorities list.
In other words, chaos is spreading, democracy is on the brink.

edit: what Musk is doing it's infuriating.
 
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LooseCannon said:
I've never seen Canada this united. This feeling is bigger than post 9/11.

r/Canada, a notoriously right wing subreddit, is cheering Trudeau. The Bloc and Parti Quebecois are committing to full participation with the government on tariff responses. Even Danielle Smith, Canada's Quisling, is getting onboard. Canadians are fucking furious right now.

The Americans do not seem to realize that we buy things they make that we don't need, because we like them. They buy our oil and gas, our iron and nickel and potash and uranium, because they need it.
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Agreed. I've never seen Canadians united about anything in my life.
 
Azas said:
So, Trump is off the reins. Tariffs, threats, etc. Mexico bowed down and agreed to send 10 000 troops to the border with U.S. I am pretty sure Trump's voters are clapping hands here. Yeah, that's how you do it! Also Panama agreed to U.S. demands.
As long as prices did not go up, Trump's a winner (cold hard fact). I think for those, who voted for Trump, closure of DEI programs and shut down of USAid is nowhere near a top of priorities list.
In other words, chaos is spreading, democracy is on the brink.

edit: what Musk is doing it's infuriating.
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Trump didn't even get concessions from Mexico or Canada. Mexico already had 15,000 troops stationed at the border and Canada pointed to a $1 Billion+ fund allocation signed during Biden's presidency. What happened is he saw the market futures/early-Monday market numbers for both stocks and crypto plummet and needed pressure off himself.

Prices are still going up. Waffle House (popular southern food chain) just introduced surcharges for all items with eggs. I expect other restaurants to follow soon.

Musk's hands are all over folks' social security now. If y'all are getting payments coming in, well, have fun with that.
 
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You really fucked up when you antagonise CANADA of all nations like this, eh?
 
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$6.99-7.99 is about the best price I can find on eggs right now, if there are even eggs in the store.

In all honesty though, I'm not sure how much this has to do with Musk or if it's a bird flu thing.

Either way, the new president sure isn't helping with the rising prices.
 
Mosh said:
$6.99-7.99 is about the best price I can find on eggs right now, if there are even eggs in the store.

In all honesty though, I'm not sure how much this has to do with Musk or if it's a bird flu thing.

Either way, the new president sure isn't helping with the rising prices.
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Nothing to do with Musk's power grab.
 
LooseCannon said:
Well, it's mostly the bird flu, let's be clear. But just to be safe, let's tariff everything coming into the country.
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We are heavily dependent on importing fertilizer from Canada. Republican Senators from the plains states where agriculture rules their respective economies were hoping there'd be a carveout for potash in the tariff rollout against Canada, but there was no such exemption. American farmers were screwed over hard by the initial rollout of tariffs in the first Trump term, and it's looking like they'll be hit yet again.
 
Canadians have every right to be furious with the U.S. over this, and I hope in time when Trump is a not too distant memory that the Canada/U.S. relationship will return to its original warm and fuzzy state.

Apologies to our polite neighbors to the north — my state voted blue, and that’s all that I could do.
 
Flaming Blimp Crash said:
We are heavily dependent on importing fertilizer from Canada. Republican Senators from the plains states where agriculture rules their respective economies were hoping there'd be a carveout for potash in the tariff rollout against Canada, but there was no such exemption. American farmers were screwed over hard by the initial rollout of tariffs in the first Trump term, and it's looking like they'll be hit yet again.
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I've seen the potash trains rolling across the prairies and through the mountains. We supply you guys with so much that you need. Nickel. Uranium. Oil. Gas. All we've asked is your friendship and the ability to mostly trade freely with your companies.

I think...I said this to a friend of mine, but I think the reason this is hitting Canadians so hard is that the generation coming into political and economic power is the 9/11 generation. Everyone knows someone who went overseas. Everyone knows of someone who didn't come back, or came back fucked up. And we did that because America is our friend and ally. We gave more lives per capita than any country in Afghanistan, and this is what we get for our blood? We would have stood by you until the end. Trump or Biden, Obama or Romney, Bush or Kerry or Gore.

I was at a hockey game last night and I saw people shaming others for buying Bud Light at the bar. The barn was almost empty but O! Canada was loud. We're pissed, at a level I've never seen. This isn't how you treat friends.
 
Onhell said:
The US has never had friends, they've always been business partners and only when it benefits them practically unilaterally.
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You know, I simply don't believe that, because while the benefits for partnership have been good for them, it's been great for a lot of countries. The Marshall Plan helped the USA grow, but it also helped France and Italy and West Germany. The reconstruction of Japan led to the country having some of the highest education, health, and happiness rates, etc.
 
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Onhell said:
The US has never had friends, they've always been business partners and only when it benefits them practically unilaterally.
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This is definitely not true on a cultural level. Americans and Canadians have enjoyed a warm and fuzzy cultural relationship for over 100 years at least, we’ve comingled professional sports leagues, and pre-9/11 you only needed your driver’s license to cross the border. We also have special shared national security concerns (e.g. NORAD) that are unique to our countries.

It’s a crying shame that Trump is pissing all over this, but it will eventually pass.
 
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