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Brietbart is anti-Trump.

It is important to recognize:
1) Donald Trump does not have a true mandate. He did not win a majority of the votes and he only barely won the popular vote.
2) Donald Trump did not run on destroying the liberal order. He specifically disavowed Project 2025 on multiple occasions, but now Project 2025 is being enacted in full.
3) The Constitution is under threat. The Executive Branch does not get to break laws like the Impoundment Act nor to stop distributing funds Congress has allocated. The judiciary and the legislative branches are paralyzed and especially the Republicans in Congress are complicit. They clearly do not want the United States to survive as a functioning democracy.

It's time to take action, Americans. General strikes, protests, whatever it takes, because if you don't, your country is done.
 
I agree with you in principle but I'm not sure I have the same reading on those things.
LooseCannon said:
is anti-Trump.

It is important to recognize:
1) Donald Trump does not have a true mandate. He did not win a majority of the votes and he only barely won the popular vote.
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This talk about mandate, idk. He won a decisive electoral vote victory, Republicans carried both houses of congress, and while he didn't win a majority he did win the popular vote. This idea of who does and doesn't have a mandate is philosophically important but functionally meaningless imo. And if we're talking about the philosophical side of how this administration should be perceived, then I think we need to discuss the mandate that was given to Trump not just by his voters, but those who signaled that a second Trump term was an acceptable outcome by staying home. That + Trump's actual share of voters equals a sizeable majority of Americans.
LooseCannon said:
2) Donald Trump did not run on destroying the liberal order. He specifically disavowed Project 2025 on multiple occasions, but now Project 2025 is being enacted in full.
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He disavowed Project 2025, but campaigned on many things in Project 2025 including dismantling institutions such as the FBI and egregious tariffs. I'm sorry but there are people on this forum who voted for Trump because they think action against your country is going to boost the USA. Saying that Trump pulled the wool over everybody's eyes because he kept saying he didn't know anything about Project 2025 just gives these people an opening to say that they didn't know any better when the economy crashes.
LooseCannon said:
3) The Constitution is under threat. The Executive Branch does not get to break laws like the Impoundment Act nor to stop distributing funds Congress has allocated. The judiciary and the legislative branches are paralyzed and especially the Republicans in Congress are complicit. They clearly do not want the United States to survive as a functioning democracy.

It's time to take action, Americans. General strikes, protests, whatever it takes, because if you don't, your country is done.
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The time for that was in November. The fact that after inciting an attempted coup against his own government and running a campaign promising to throw out the constitution and be a dictator on day one, Americans decided that that was an acceptable choice for president is a sign that we're past the point of no return. I think his voters (and non voters) need to feel the consequences of Trump's actions so we can ensure that, if given the opportunity to rebuild from here, someone like that isn't allowed to hold this kind of power again.

When those people are ready to admit they were wrong and apologize, I will be happy to join them in the picket line.
 
Mosh said:
I think his voters (and non voters) need to feel the consequences of Trump's actions so we can ensure that, if given the opportunity to rebuild from here, someone like that isn't allowed to hold this kind of power again.
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Agreed. This is life, not trolling on the internet.
 
Re: Canada

Charles is the head of state is he not? I wonder will the brits still be allies of Trump if he continues to try and take one of the Kings realms.
 
srfc said:
Re: Canada

Charles is the head of state is he not? I wonder will the brits still be allies of Trump if he continues to try and take one of the Kings realms.
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That's an interesting dilemma for the right wing media here. They love the royals but they also love Trump.
 
Re Project 2025:

Trump openly disavowed it, when he saw that it was largely unpopular with potential voters (not that it mattered in the end).

He proposed his own so called Agenda 47 which was nearly identical with Project 2025 in most major points. It has been clear for literal months that he'd be implementing Project 2025 and we're seeing it now.
 
So, Trump is off the reins. Tariffs, threats, etc. Mexico bowed down and agreed to send 10 000 troops to the border with U.S. I am pretty sure Trump's voters are clapping hands here. Yeah, that's how you do it! Also Panama agreed to U.S. demands.
As long as prices did not go up, Trump's a winner (cold hard fact). I think for those, who voted for Trump, closure of DEI programs and shut down of USAid is nowhere near a top of priorities list.
In other words, chaos is spreading, democracy is on the brink.

edit: what Musk is doing it's infuriating.
 
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LooseCannon said:
I've never seen Canada this united. This feeling is bigger than post 9/11.

r/Canada, a notoriously right wing subreddit, is cheering Trudeau. The Bloc and Parti Quebecois are committing to full participation with the government on tariff responses. Even Danielle Smith, Canada's Quisling, is getting onboard. Canadians are fucking furious right now.

The Americans do not seem to realize that we buy things they make that we don't need, because we like them. They buy our oil and gas, our iron and nickel and potash and uranium, because they need it.
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Agreed. I've never seen Canadians united about anything in my life.
 
Azas said:
So, Trump is off the reins. Tariffs, threats, etc. Mexico bowed down and agreed to send 10 000 troops to the border with U.S. I am pretty sure Trump's voters are clapping hands here. Yeah, that's how you do it! Also Panama agreed to U.S. demands.
As long as prices did not go up, Trump's a winner (cold hard fact). I think for those, who voted for Trump, closure of DEI programs and shut down of USAid is nowhere near a top of priorities list.
In other words, chaos is spreading, democracy is on the brink.

edit: what Musk is doing it's infuriating.
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Trump didn't even get concessions from Mexico or Canada. Mexico already had 15,000 troops stationed at the border and Canada pointed to a $1 Billion+ fund allocation signed during Biden's presidency. What happened is he saw the market futures/early-Monday market numbers for both stocks and crypto plummet and needed pressure off himself.

Prices are still going up. Waffle House (popular southern food chain) just introduced surcharges for all items with eggs. I expect other restaurants to follow soon.

Musk's hands are all over folks' social security now. If y'all are getting payments coming in, well, have fun with that.
 
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You really fucked up when you antagonise CANADA of all nations like this, eh?
 
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$6.99-7.99 is about the best price I can find on eggs right now, if there are even eggs in the store.

In all honesty though, I'm not sure how much this has to do with Musk or if it's a bird flu thing.

Either way, the new president sure isn't helping with the rising prices.
 
Mosh said:
$6.99-7.99 is about the best price I can find on eggs right now, if there are even eggs in the store.

In all honesty though, I'm not sure how much this has to do with Musk or if it's a bird flu thing.

Either way, the new president sure isn't helping with the rising prices.
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Nothing to do with Musk's power grab.
 
LooseCannon said:
Well, it's mostly the bird flu, let's be clear. But just to be safe, let's tariff everything coming into the country.
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We are heavily dependent on importing fertilizer from Canada. Republican Senators from the plains states where agriculture rules their respective economies were hoping there'd be a carveout for potash in the tariff rollout against Canada, but there was no such exemption. American farmers were screwed over hard by the initial rollout of tariffs in the first Trump term, and it's looking like they'll be hit yet again.
 
Canadians have every right to be furious with the U.S. over this, and I hope in time when Trump is a not too distant memory that the Canada/U.S. relationship will return to its original warm and fuzzy state.

Apologies to our polite neighbors to the north — my state voted blue, and that’s all that I could do.
 
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