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The Democratic base are fucking morons for keeping Biden at the top of the ticket, and if we wind up with a second Trump term the blame will rest fully on their shoulders.
 
The Democratic base are fucking morons for keeping Biden at the top of the ticket, and if we wind up with a second Trump term the blame will rest fully on their shoulders.

Just curious whom you were supporting in 2016, Hilary or Sanders? (I was with Hilary then)
 
In retrospect Sanders would be something different. Pity he didn't won the primaries.
It would have been interesting. I didn't agree with all of his policy proposals, but he came off as thoughtful and genuine, and Congress would have moderated his more radical tendencies. In some ways he was attempting a Trumpian takeover of the Democratic Party, but without all the insanity.
 
Yes, but unfortunately back in 2016's Democratic party you couldn't do that due to super-delegates. I remember reading how Sanders was bitter about it and that he had an agreement with Hilary that they would change that.
 
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Phillips only got around 2.6% while the uncommitted protest vote against Biden got almost 5 times as much votes.
It's a good thing that people are using the primary to protests Biden's handling of Gaza though (better than abstaining from voting in the general) and I'm curious to see if this will be completely ignored or if there'll be some kind of adjustment in the future.
Glad to see people largely aren't falling for the Phillips grift. I heard him on a Bulwark podcast a couple weeks ago and he could hardly lay out his policy differences with Biden nor did he seem to have any actual idea on how he would run against Trump. I would have really liked to see a real Democratic primary, but it's laughable that this guy thinks he would have any real shot. I'm also all for protesting, though I hope when the rubber meets the road Michigan voters realize this is a binary choice between Biden and a guy who has made it very clear he wants to discriminate against Muslim Americans.

The numbers coming out of these primaries have been interesting. It seems like Biden is slightly overperforming his polls while Trump is slightly underperforming. It's all within the margins, but that could make the difference in a state like Michigan. The biggest open questions for me are related to Haley voters. Mainly how many of her voters are Democrats/independents and how many of her voters are going to vote for Biden in November? As this thing gets more and more heated between Trump and Haley, a Haley endorsement is looking less likely. Also not sure how Trump essentially being an incumbent and struggling to break 70% can be spun as a good sign. Considering Haley's campaign was over weeks ago, it feels more like people are just coming out to vote against Trump at this point.
 
Glad to see people largely aren't falling for the Phillips grift.
How on earth does the word “grift” apply to his candidacy, regardless of what you think of it?

I would have really liked to see a real Democratic primary, but it's laughable that this guy thinks he would have any real shot.
I would have really liked to see a real Democratic primary, but it's laughable that Biden’s people are so scared of putting him in a debate situation that they’re trying to undemocratically cancel primaries and throw all the delegates to him without even having a fair contest.

If marginal votes for Cornel West and RFK Jr. cost Biden the election in any swing states, his refusal to fully participate in the primary process will be directly to blame. If there had been a real primary, they likely wouldn’t have gone third party and would have supported the Democratic nominee instead.

The navel-gazing condescension and casual acceptance of undemocratic precedent during this primary season on the Democratic side are both appalling. If Biden’s legitimate primary opponents are really such a clown show, then why be afraid of proceeding with normal democratic order, having debates and winning or losing on the merits?
 
Phillips in a sense is doing the anti-grift, where he's spending money on a campaign, only to be outvoted 5:1 by what is essentially "none of the above" lol
 
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David Aronberg: "Count me as one of the legal observers surprised by the Supreme Court’s decision, which gives former President Trump a huge victory by delaying his DC election interference case indefinitely. In so doing, the five Justices who granted the stay of proceedings have thrown sand in the gears of justice and further delegitimized the Court in the eyes of many Americans.

Chief Justice John Roberts cares deeply about the Court’s public perception, and wants people to believe the Justices are above politics. That’s why it is mystifying that Roberts would allow his Court to grab such a political hot potato. The DC Circuit Court of Appeals’ decision was powerful, comprehensive, well-reasoned and convincing. The underlying issue of absolute immunity has always been an easy one. There is no real debate on whether we have a President or a king.

For Trump, this was always a delay tactic. Trump is going to lose this appeal to the Supreme Court, but he wins by losing because it is now unlikely the DC election interference case will go to trial before the 2024 election. Although the Mar-a-Lago documents case is the strongest one facing Trump, it was always going to be delayed after Judge Aileen Cannon was assigned to the case. The DC election interference case, by contrast, had the right Judge in experienced, no-nonsense Judge Tanya Chutkan, and was built for speed with only four counts and no co-defendants.


What is especially maddening about the Supreme Court’s decision is that the Court knows about the extremely consequential election in November, yet showed no urgency in setting April 22nd for the oral argument. A more cynical view is to interpret the Court’s decision as a nefarious act of putting its thumb on the scale to benefit its favored candidate.

Indeed, when candidate Trump desperately needed an expedited oral argument so he could remain on the ballot in Colorado, the Supreme Court gave it to him. When it was in Trump’s interest to delay the DC election interference case, the Court gave it to him as well. First, the Court blocked Special Counsel Jack Smith’s attempt in December to skip over the DC appellate court. Then, when the Court finally got the case on appeal, it sat on its decision for nearly two weeks. When it finally ruled, the Court chose to grant not only a review but issued a stay. Then it chose to reject Smith’s proposal to fast-track the case for oral argument in March, and instead scheduled it for April 22 – the last week in which the Court is scheduled to hear arguments this term.

As the late, great Neil Peart wrote, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” Delay is a choice. When the Supreme Court wants to move quickly, it can even do so with lightning speed, as it did in Bush v. Gore in 2000.

The Supreme Court’s decision to slow walk this case should make it abundantly clear that there is no cavalry coming to save our democracy. Only the voters can do that."
 
Do we know which justices agreed to hear the case? Since the order was unsigned we may not know, but you only need four so John Roberts may not have had a choice there. I couldn't find that information.

The most compelling argument I've heard for the SCOTUS taking up this case is that given its historical nature, they want to have the last word on it. Even though the DC circuit opinion was pretty lock tight, SCOTUS might see it as important enough for them to have a say as well, even if they're largely in line with DC's ruling (which I still heavily doubt they are going to rule Trump is immune as that would essentially weaken the judiciary in the process).

Ultimately it is up to the voters to decide not to let a guy who tried to block a fair election and has promised to be a dictator on day one be president again. At the same time, voters are also imo entitled to know if the person they're voting for is going to be convicted of a felony, so it's in the voters' best interest that these trials happen quickly.

This could also backfire pretty badly on Trump. If the SCOTUS rules quickly enough for the trial to move forward, I suppose there is a chance for a trial around September or October, which would be devastating, especially considering that this is the election interference case which has shown to carry the biggest political liabilities for Trump. Election denying was very unpopular in 2022.
 
This could also backfire pretty badly on Trump. If the SCOTUS rules quickly enough for the trial to move forward, I suppose there is a chance for a trial around September or October, which would be devastating, especially considering that this is the election interference case which has shown to carry the biggest political liabilities for Trump. Election denying was very unpopular in 2022.
We've been talking quite a bit on how things may backfire on Trump, and in a normal world most things should have. Though, from what we've seen so far, it really hasn't, and his delay tactics have so far worked well in his favor. The spin machine is working long term to soften the implications of a conviction anyway, so that a large enough share of voters ultimately might go "it's not that big deal after all, it's all rigged", and if he gets convicted that spin machine will go into overdrive mode. I mean, we've seen similar shifts before, where actions and positions that once have been considered a definitive no-go, suddenly turns into a maybe or a yes. Hell, if Trump's business empire falls, which is the only immediate danger he's in, that might even garner new followers.
 
We've been talking quite a bit on how things may backfire on Trump, and in a normal world most things should have. Though, from what we've seen so far, it really hasn't, and his delay tactics have so far worked well in his favor. The spin machine is working long term to soften the implications of a conviction anyway, so that a large enough share of voters ultimately might go "it's not that big deal after all, it's all rigged", and if he gets convicted that spin machine will go into overdrive mode.
I hear your point. The challenging thing is that there is only one poll/figure/what have you: the 2024 election result. If Trump loses in November all of these things in the aggregate are going to be seen as contributing factors. It’s still a very real possibility that these indictments and trials will cost him the election.
 
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I hear your point. The challenging thing is that there is only one poll/figure/what have you: the 2024 election result. If Trump loses in November all of these things in the aggregate are going to be seen as contributing factors. It’s still a very real possibility that these indictments and trials will cost him the election.
I'm hoping.
 
Politics definitely influence justice guys. And heavily so.

One recent example from Greece. During the crisis a law had passed that you cannot lose your first home due to debt. Legendary law, saved many lives. It was passed by Social Democrats.
During when red left (Syriza) was in power the people are winning the battles against banks and the appeals.
In 2019 conservatives come in power and surprise they side with the banks. I don’t have feedback for first trials but I know that in 2024 people are massively loosing the appeals. They kick out 80 year olds the bastards.

Law is the same, judges are the same, what has changed is the government and their will to push in a certain direction.
 
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Lame. And it arguably makes the situation worse, because now any party in control of both houses of Congress can vote to disqualify a candidate by majority vote for political reasons, and it would require a 2/3 vote in both houses to reinstate them.

Should've left this to state officials while allowing an affected candidate to dispute the facts re: their insurrectionist behavior in court to get relief if necessary.
 
Lame. And it arguably makes the situation worse, because now any party in control of both houses of Congress can vote to disqualify a candidate by majority vote for political reasons, and it would require a 2/3 vote in both houses to reinstate them.

Should've left this to state officials while allowing an affected candidate to dispute the facts re: their insurrectionist behavior in court to get relief if necessary.
Wow, that's insane.
 
Unfortunately not really surprising but still disappointing. Also, kinda telling that this one was dealt with so quickly in time for Super Tuesday, but the immunity case has to wait until June.
 
Unfortunately not really surprising but still disappointing. Also, kinda telling that this one was dealt with so quickly in time for Super Tuesday, but the immunity case has to wait until June.
This should have been done before Super Tuesday, but as should the immunity case.
 
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