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The judges have ordered the state to make it legal as soon as practical, which will be shortly.  So they have to do it.
 
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LooseCannon said:
In most modern democracies, abortion isn't an issue at all.  There are some countries (Belgium comes to mind) where abortion is illegal, but in most, it's legal and carefully practiced.
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In Belgium it's legal as well.
Just looked this up on wiki:

To protect woman's life: Yes
Physical health: Yes
Mental health: Yes
Rape: Yes
Fetal defects: Yes
Socio-economic factors: Yes
On request: Yes
 
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Wasted155 said:
On another note, I was sad to hear that they are doing an elementary school election, and kids are telling other kids that if they don't vote for McCain, they won't play with the other kids.  My daughters were asking if it was illegal to threaten someone to vote a certain way.  So, we had some long discussions about voting and peoples right... I told them that many people had died to give them the right to vote, so don't let some kids dissuade them.  Ah, politics!!
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Funny!  My school did similar voting for the federal elections that just took place.  It is a great way to get kids aware of politics and the importance of voting.
 
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Genghis Khan said:
Funny!  My school did similar voting for the federal elections that just took place.  It is a great way to get kids aware of politics and the importance of voting.
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Oh, I do think its great for kids to be involved in politics; I may have worded it wrong in my post-- I was just disappointed that some of the kids were being all 'school bully' about it.  My youngest two know far more about 'the issues' than I did at their age, and I think that is great!  We have been talking about the candidates and what they will mean to our country and the like. 

Do you mind if I ask how your school fared, election wise?  Was it similar to how the 'real' vote took place in your area?
 
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Things are looking worse for McCain, now.  Taegan Goddard's Political Wire is now reporting that Obama has brought the race to within 2-5 points in Arizona, McCain's home state.

Here's the state of the race, as reported by The Votemaster over at www.electoral-vote.com:

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Wasted155 said:
Oh, I do think its great for kids to be involved in politics; I may have worded it wrong in my post-- I was just disappointed that some of the kids were being all 'school bully' about it.  My youngest two know far more about 'the issues' than I did at their age, and I think that is great!  We have been talking about the candidates and what they will mean to our country and the like. 

Do you mind if I ask how your school fared, election wise?  Was it similar to how the 'real' vote took place in your area?
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It's my fault for the misunderstanding.  By "funny" I meant as a "conicidence" thought we both really know it is smart to use such polling in schools.  Ironically, my school had the actual winners, the conservatives, at the bottom of the vote count with approximately 20%.  What is even stranger, that whole city/riding has voted conservative (right centre) over the last two federal elections.  Psychology tells us that children take the political values of their parents so one would think that NDP (far left) would be one of the lowest ranked, yet they ranked the highest.  It kind of makes you wonder which ideology kids adopted, their own, their parents, or that of the teachers who are typically of the left-wing persuasion.

As for the USA elections, it is all but decided.  The republican in-fighting is sort of amusing as it serves McCain right for picking Palin just to get the "base voters".  If Obama handles the economic situation correctly, e.g. listens to his advisors, the republicans will have a tough time recovering from this in-fighting even in 2012.  That's just my prediction, who knows though.  Speaking of which, Palin will probably run as a republican nominee in 2012.
 
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This is insane. I just heard breaking news about some planned assault on Obama. I was just 72 minutes into the German film "Stauffenberg" ... aka "Operation Valkyrie". As most of you probably know, the film about another famous (failed) assault.  :blink:
 
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@GK, that is cool, thanks for the heads up.  I think, around here, most of the younger kids (elementary school) go by their parents, but 7th - Senior seem to have their own agendas.

@Foro, I saw something about that as well.  Yahoo headline read 'feds bust up skinhead plot to assassinate Obama' (or words to that affect).  Haven't read much about it yet tho.
 
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There's no assault.  A few neo-Nazi skinheads talked about killing Obama.  They hadn't done anything other than try to rob a gun store.  Nothing to see here.
 
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Still this is the only professed planned assassination of the (almost certain) future president.  The skinheads were also planning on killing many black people in their spree.  Clearly nutters, but thankfully, they're not too bright.
Wasted155 said:
@GK, that is cool, thanks for the heads up.  I think, around here, most of the younger kids (elementary school) go by their parents, but 7th - Senior seem to have their own agendas.
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In our school, only 7s and 8s voted.  Figures the kids would have their own agendas.  Teenage rebellion, eh!
 
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Let's hope that a lot of other not too bright people forget to vote next week.
 
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That's a terrible thing to say. Let's hope everyone votes.
 
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Racists are imo not bright.

If the more non bright people won't vote => the less racists will vote.

My 2 cents
 
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Voting is important, period, regardless of the person's outlook on anything.  Would I want the KKK to vote?  Absolutely.  You can't hope for people to be disenfranchised just because of their political views.

And, Foro?  There are some incredibly brilliant racists out there.  Racism doesn't have anything to do with your level of intelligence but more your level of education and your social background.  If racism was based on who's smart and who's not, it would have died out a long, long time ago.  So, lots of people who aren't bright are going to vote, and I'd hazard a guess and say those people are going to decide the election.

Personally, I always hope for 100% turnout.  Looks like the turnout in this election will be the highest in the USA in a long time.  Major battleground states like Ohio, Virginia, and Colorado are predicting as much as 90% turnout!  That's over the wall, we haven't seen that in the USA in decades, if ever.
 
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LooseCannon said:
Voting is important, period, regardless of the person's outlook on anything.  Would I want the KKK to vote?  Absolutely.  You can't hope for people to be disenfranchised just because of their political views.
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I can. I have a wish that Obama wins, so I can hope something.

LooseCannon said:
And, Foro?  There are some incredibly brilliant racists out there.
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It almost sounds like you're eager to defend such scum. Well, I am not eager to count their votes.

LooseCannon said:
Racism doesn't have anything to do with your level of intelligence but more your level of education and your social background.  If racism was based on who's smart and who's not, it would have died out a long, long time ago.  So, lots of people who aren't bright are going to vote, and I'd hazard a guess and say those people are going to decide the election.
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On whatever racism is based, I hope the amount of racist voters will be low in these elections. I know it probably won't be the case, but hey, I just hope so.

LooseCannon said:
Personally, I always hope for 100% turnout.  Looks like the turnout in this election will be the highest in the USA in a long time.  Major battleground states like Ohio, Virginia, and Colorado are predicting as much as 90% turnout!  That's over the wall, we haven't seen that in the USA in decades, if ever.
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I hope that a lot of young people will vote. Most younger people can question wrong ideas more easily than older people. Only youth might ensure Obama's victory.
 
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I actually hope that his victory doesn't hinge on the youth.  The youth have a tendency to bail on elections.  They were to be the ones that saved Kerry, and Gore...you get the idea.  If the youth are what Obama needs to win, that is a problem.

And, honestly, I do hope everyone votes.  That is the only way that true freedom can exist, if every one gets a chance to have their say.  Otherwise, what makes someone that thinks like 'us' different from one that thinks like one of 'them'?  Denying a racist, or a bigot, or a homo-phobe their vote would seem to be counter intuitive. 
 
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