I can't see Bernie beating anyone. The communist slur would be enough to keep middle-aged whites home in places he'd need them - the Rust Belt. More millenials would have shown up in places like Boston and New York and San Francisco. Big whoop.
USA Politics
- Thread starter Genghis Khan
- Start date
SixesAlltheway
Ancient Mariner
What does the southern border of the United States look like?
For all the talk of “securing the border” and “building a wall,” there is surprisingly little visual material that conveys just how vast this stretch of space is.
In total, the U.S.-Mexico border spans 1,954 miles. According to Google Maps, it would take 34 hours to drive its entire length. In places, there already is a border fence — more than 650 miles of it. Pushed and pulled by various forces, some 1 million people are estimated to pass through the official ports of entry every day.
But what does the geography of this landscape look like? Is it industrial? Desolate? Populated? All of the above?
voyage across the US-Mexico border, stitched together from 200,000 satellite images:
https://fieldofvision.org/best-of-luck-with-the-wall
For all the talk of “securing the border” and “building a wall,” there is surprisingly little visual material that conveys just how vast this stretch of space is.
In total, the U.S.-Mexico border spans 1,954 miles. According to Google Maps, it would take 34 hours to drive its entire length. In places, there already is a border fence — more than 650 miles of it. Pushed and pulled by various forces, some 1 million people are estimated to pass through the official ports of entry every day.
But what does the geography of this landscape look like? Is it industrial? Desolate? Populated? All of the above?
voyage across the US-Mexico border, stitched together from 200,000 satellite images:
https://fieldofvision.org/best-of-luck-with-the-wall
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
I like Cranston, Key, and Jackson quite a bit as actors. would not miss any of the rest. Hopefully they are packing now
Actors
Bryan Cranston said he hopes he doesn’t have to pack his bags, but would “definitely move” if Trump won. “Absolutely, I would definitely move,” the “Breaking Bad” star said on “The Bestseller Experiment” podcast. “It’s not real to me that that would happen. I hope to God it won’t.”
Samuel L. Jackson slammed Trump for running a “hate”-filled campaign and said he would move to South Africa if he wins. “If that motherf---er becomes president, I’m moving my black ass to South Africa,” the movie star quipped to Jimmy Kimmel.
Lena Dunham told Andy Cohen at the Matrix Awards that “I know a lot of people have been threatening to do this, but I really will. I know a lovely place in Vancouver.” The star and creator of HBO’s “Girls” has been a vocal advocate for Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee.
Neve Campbell, an actress on the political drama “House of Cards,” vowed to move back home to Canada, while “Orange is the New Black” actress Natasha Lyonne said she would hightail it to a mental hospital.
Singers
Cher tweeted this summer that if Trump gets elected, “I’m moving to Jupiter.”
Miley Cyrus wrote in an emotional Instagram post in March that tears were running down her cheek and she was unbelievably scared and sad. “I am moving if he is president,” the young pop star said. “I don’t say things I don’t mean!”
Barbara Streisand, a vocal Clinton supporter, told “60 Minutes” that “I’m either coming to your country if you’ll let me in, or Canada.”
Ne-Yo told TMZ last month that he’d move to Canada and be neighbors with fellow R&B singer Drake if the country elected Trump.
Comedians
Comedian Amy Schumer said in September that Spain would be her destination of choice.
“My act will change because I will need to learn to speak Spanish,” Schumer said in an appearance on the BBC’s “Newsnight.” “Because I will move to Spain or somewhere. It’s beyond my comprehension if Trump won. It’s just too crazy.”
Chelsea Handler said she already made contingency plans months ago.
“I did buy a house in another country just in case,” the comedian and talk show host said during an appearance on “Live with Kelly and Michael” in May. “So all these people that threaten to leave the country and then don’t — I actually will leave that country.”
Former “Daily Show” host Jon Stewart said he would consider “getting in a rocket and going to another planet, because clearly this planet’s gone bonkers” if the real estate mogul wins.
Whoopi Goldberg, co-host of the “The View”, said on an episode of the talk show earlier this year that if the country elects Trump, “maybe it’s time for me to move, you know. I can afford to go.”
Keegan-Michael Key said he would flee north to Canada. “It’s like, 10 minutes from Detroit,” the comedian told TMZ in January. “That’s where I’m from; my mom lives there. It’d make her happy too.”
Hispanic comedian George Lopez said Trump “won’t have to worry about immigration” if he takes the White House because “we’ll all go back.”
Political Figures
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg joked in an interview with The New York Times in July that it’d be time to move to New Zealand if Trump were to win.
“Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand,” she said quoting her husband who died in 2010. “I can’t imagine what the country would be with Donald Trump as our president. For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.”
Ginsburg later apologized for her comments, calling them “ill-advised.”
Civil rights activist Al Sharpton told a reporter earlier this year that he’s “reserving my ticket out of here if [Trump] wins.”
Actors
Bryan Cranston said he hopes he doesn’t have to pack his bags, but would “definitely move” if Trump won. “Absolutely, I would definitely move,” the “Breaking Bad” star said on “The Bestseller Experiment” podcast. “It’s not real to me that that would happen. I hope to God it won’t.”
Samuel L. Jackson slammed Trump for running a “hate”-filled campaign and said he would move to South Africa if he wins. “If that motherf---er becomes president, I’m moving my black ass to South Africa,” the movie star quipped to Jimmy Kimmel.
Lena Dunham told Andy Cohen at the Matrix Awards that “I know a lot of people have been threatening to do this, but I really will. I know a lovely place in Vancouver.” The star and creator of HBO’s “Girls” has been a vocal advocate for Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee.
Neve Campbell, an actress on the political drama “House of Cards,” vowed to move back home to Canada, while “Orange is the New Black” actress Natasha Lyonne said she would hightail it to a mental hospital.
Singers
Cher tweeted this summer that if Trump gets elected, “I’m moving to Jupiter.”
Miley Cyrus wrote in an emotional Instagram post in March that tears were running down her cheek and she was unbelievably scared and sad. “I am moving if he is president,” the young pop star said. “I don’t say things I don’t mean!”
Barbara Streisand, a vocal Clinton supporter, told “60 Minutes” that “I’m either coming to your country if you’ll let me in, or Canada.”
Ne-Yo told TMZ last month that he’d move to Canada and be neighbors with fellow R&B singer Drake if the country elected Trump.
Comedians
Comedian Amy Schumer said in September that Spain would be her destination of choice.
“My act will change because I will need to learn to speak Spanish,” Schumer said in an appearance on the BBC’s “Newsnight.” “Because I will move to Spain or somewhere. It’s beyond my comprehension if Trump won. It’s just too crazy.”
Chelsea Handler said she already made contingency plans months ago.
“I did buy a house in another country just in case,” the comedian and talk show host said during an appearance on “Live with Kelly and Michael” in May. “So all these people that threaten to leave the country and then don’t — I actually will leave that country.”
Former “Daily Show” host Jon Stewart said he would consider “getting in a rocket and going to another planet, because clearly this planet’s gone bonkers” if the real estate mogul wins.
Whoopi Goldberg, co-host of the “The View”, said on an episode of the talk show earlier this year that if the country elects Trump, “maybe it’s time for me to move, you know. I can afford to go.”
Keegan-Michael Key said he would flee north to Canada. “It’s like, 10 minutes from Detroit,” the comedian told TMZ in January. “That’s where I’m from; my mom lives there. It’d make her happy too.”
Hispanic comedian George Lopez said Trump “won’t have to worry about immigration” if he takes the White House because “we’ll all go back.”
Political Figures
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg joked in an interview with The New York Times in July that it’d be time to move to New Zealand if Trump were to win.
“Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand,” she said quoting her husband who died in 2010. “I can’t imagine what the country would be with Donald Trump as our president. For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.”
Ginsburg later apologized for her comments, calling them “ill-advised.”
Civil rights activist Al Sharpton told a reporter earlier this year that he’s “reserving my ticket out of here if [Trump] wins.”
SixesAlltheway
Ancient Mariner
CriedWhenBrucieLeft
Meme Only Account
I agreed. I don't see anything being described here as being particularly unique to the USA. And I can't really see how any of it justifies voting for a man who says what Trump has said & who behaves as Trump behaves. I guess the vote was difficult. I don't think I'd have voted for either candidate had I been a voting.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
Again ... look at who he was running against. These were 2 deeply flawed candidates and as the numbers come in, it looks like a lot of people just stayed home. The counts are looking like 2004 in terms of raw vote numbers despite a larger voting base (both in overall population and the number of people registered to vote).
Add to that, like what he said or not, Trump gave at least some people something to vote for .. Hillary never really did that, her campaign ended up being more vote against him rather than vote for me.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
That and a nickel will get you a nickel.
The Electoral College has it flaws, but overall it is a good way to go to keep the value and importance of the states.
Also she is not going to have a lot more votes as a percentage of the total. Imagine if there was a precinct by precinct nationwide recount and the utter chaos and amount of time that would take.
In any case, that is the system we have, in terms of electoral votes (assuming Michigan and Arizona are called for Trump), it was not close.
People protesting this should follow the example of President Obama and what he has said post-election which is pretty similar to what President W. Bush did and said after Obama won. Trump will be the President come January 20th, 2107 nothing short of his death or resignation between now and then can or will change that.
SixesAlltheway
Ancient Mariner
It will all be OK. Let's remember who we had before Obama...
I'm going to be writing my MP to ask if we will be considering American gay couples who lose marriage status as potential refugees for loss of rights, which is one of the reasons we accept refugees, in case Obergfell is overturned.
Why Hillary lost in one graphic:
Did you ever get an answer to any of the stuff you wrote to him?
CriedWhenBrucieLeft
Meme Only Account
I'm going to be writing...
But don't you think that given a particularly downtrodden and traditionalist section of the population - especially one that has certain expectations or sense of entitlement - plus a soundbite-heavy politician with a charismatic leadership style, who seems to genuinely be listening to that downtrodden section of the population, mobilising them, and offering immediate action, that it's not too surprising? I don't think it's justifiable voting for someone who has distinctly fascist-looking intentions. But given the right person with the right image for any particular population, it could happen anywhere. I have to raise an eyebrow at the reactions to Trump of people outside America who have distinctly similar views, but consider him and his supporters a bunch of crazies. Because Trump is foreign, so he's completely different.
CriedWhenBrucieLeft
Meme Only Account
Correct, I don't think it's surprising. There's no particular need for this person to peddle hate though.
It doesn't really matter to me personally (if someone is a declared fascist), as long as it's clearly understood what a particular person really thinks; voter or politician. Honestly, take someone like Farage. Farage is allowed on Question Time (as he should be) & given plenty of air time (debates with other leaders, etc). But when he came to Scotland he was confronted by withering criticism & public protest; against his unapologetic xenophobic rhetoric amongst other things. He just went home. Since I personally agree with this criticism, I think this non-violent response was totally fine. His views are not acceptable in a modern multicultural society. No need to gag him, he's entitled to speak; just don't expect to be made very welcome. Trump's basically the same, in my view. He can say these things, and think these things if he wants. But I find it staggering that people can look past these views/ideas he clearly has (as people obviously disagree with him, but voted for him); or, and this is far worse, actually share them. Again, people can hold these views if they want; it's going to be a pretty poor world to live in if we choose to live by them though...
Again, Farage. The jolly, beer-drinking, harmless, "little-Englander", blah blah...
Indeed. Nothing worse than hypocrisy.I have to raise an eyebrow at the reactions to Trump of people outside America who have distinctly similar views, but consider him and his supporters a bunch of crazies. Because Trump is foreign, so he's completely different.
Travis The Dragon
AFTERGLOW!!!
Fake.