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The problem is that it's not been an easy message. Journalism is going to change as a result of this election, I think. It should have been the media's task, not to stop Trump, but to ask the hard questions of him - and to extrapolate on his lies. Sure, we have fact checkers, but it's not the same. There's been more of that in the later campaign but almost none of it it in the primaries.
 
I find a weird split in commercial media between those that have no qualms about being horribly biased in order to court readers/viewers of a particular standpoint, and those who make a point of backing away from actively holding to account a particular politician lest they become seen as politically biased. Sometimes the organisations that want to appear respectable are over-cautious about going on the attack.
 
Maybe they found some of the "non work related" emails Hillary deleted

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...y-clintons-state-tenure/ar-AAjRMWN?li=BBnb7Kz

The FBI has found emails related to Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state on the laptop belonging to the estranged husband of Huma Abedin, Anthony Weiner, according to a U.S. official.

These emails, CBS News’ Andres Triay reports, are not duplicates of emails found on Secretary Clinton’s private server. At this point, however, it remains to be seen whether these emails are significant to the FBI’s investigation into Clinton. It is also not known how many relevant emails there are.

In a letter to Congress last Friday, FBI Director James Comey indicated that the agency was taking steps to review newly discovered emails relating to Clinton’s private email server. Those emails came from the laptop of Weiner, a former New York congressman. Abedin reportedly said she had no knowledge of the existence of any of her emails on Weiner’s laptop. On Monday, CBS News reported that the FBI had obtained a warrant for the emails.

In a separate matter, CBS News confirmed that there were disagreements between FBI agents looking into the Clinton Foundation and their superiors in Washington and at the Department of Justice. The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday that the FBI was facing an “internal feud” over how to handle the Clinton Foundation case in the middle of election season. Officials say tension like this is common in many cases.

It is still unclear whether the FBI inquiry into the Clinton Foundation was a full-blown investigation. The current status of that inquiry is also unclear. However, no known charges have been filed related to the foundation.
 
Newsweek published a summary of Trump's Russian connections today.

While American intelligence officers have privately briefed Trump about Russia’s attempts to influence the U.S. election, he has publicly dismissed that information as unreliable, instead saying this hacking of incredible sophistication and technical complexity could have been done by some 400-pound “guy sitting on their bed” or even a child.

Officials from two European countries tell Newsweek that Trump’s comments about Russia’s hacking have alarmed several NATO partners because it suggests he either does not believe the information he receives in intelligence briefings, does not pay attention to it, does not understand it or is misleading the American public for unknown reasons. One British official says members of that government who are aware of the scope of Russia’s cyberattacks both in Western Europe and America found Trump’s comments “quite disturbing” because they fear that, if elected, the Republican presidential nominee would continue to ignore information gathered by intelligence services in the formulation of U.S. foreign policy.

Read it in full, it's worth your time.
 
I actually just thought Putin and co were backing him because they see the potential for getting together for joint bullshitting and posturing.
 
Sucks we got hacked by the Russians, but it is good all this came out to show the level of sleaze that is the Clinton's .. and also what a moron Podesta is for falling for the change your password trick .. not exactly the hacking coup of the century.

My premature election reaction

It sucks Clinton won, but I am glad Trump lost

or

It sucks Trump won, but I am glad Clinton lost

... either scenario is pretty crappy
 
From Greg Graffin's facebook:
Hey everyone here's a new song I recorded with my pals by the great Norman Blake. It's “Lincoln’s Funeral Train” – via Los Angeles Times. Come back here tomorrow at 5pm Pacific for a Facebook Mentions live performance of our living room version of "Lincoln's Funeral Train."

This song is such a sorrowful piece of Americana and is deeply significant today. The vision of that black funeral train heading west forever into the sunset is symbolic of today's flickering Republican torch. The Great Emancipator's passing is once again relevant: Lincoln was the founding President of the Republican Party, a blip so distant on the horizon that it is hardly recognizable anymore.

-Greg
Los Angeles Times:
Premiere: Bad Religion's Greg Graffin amps up 'Lincoln's Funeral Train'
In the run-up to Tuesday’s presidential election, veteran punk rocker Greg Graffin has had Abraham Lincoln on his mind.
So the cofounder of long-running Bad Religion enlisted some of his punk pals — current Social Distortion guitarist Jonny “Two Bags” Wickersham, bassist Brent Harding and drummer David Hidalgo Jr. — and jumped into a recording studio recently to lay down an amped-up version of Nashville songwriter Norman Blake’s “Lincoln’s Funeral Train (The Sad Journey to Springfield).”

The Times is premiering the track, which will be posted on Spotify as of Nov. 4.

Blake’s song eulogizes Lincoln’s legacy as the Great Emancipator from the perspective of those watching his funeral train depart from the nation’s capital for his burial at the Oak Ridge Cemetery in Springfield, Ill.

Graffin and his mates combine punk-rock drive with folk-music narrative power as he sings:

“Crowds jammed the streets for a final look at the great man who had stood at the country's helm/Through the bitter war that seemed of little good/Felled by the bullet of John Wilkes Booth as the battle died away/His guiding spirit to reconcile by absence brought dismay.”

For Graffin, it’s a merging of his socially and politically provocative work with Bad Religion and the American roots music he grew up with among family members raised in the Midwest.

“The people who introduced me to old-time music are now old-timers themselves,” Graffin said in a statement.

“My family roots go back to Indiana and Wisconsin. The Indiana folks sang a cappella in the old country chapel at my grandma’s funeral. Her children taught me to sing and the songs they chose came from the ’30s, ’40s, ’50s, and of course the folk revival tunes of the 1960s. This was the sound I brought forth to my own band starting in the 1980s. It's the only kind of lyrical style I know.”

The song is expected to be included on an album Graffin is targeting for release sometime next year.

In addition to his work as a songwriter, singer and instrumentalist with Bad Religion, Graffin has written several books on evolution and has been a lecturer at UCLA and Cornell University.
( @MrKnickerbocker )
 
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Hillary uses Beyonce and Jay-Z. Trump doesn't use anyone, because he's a fucking reality show star himself.

I agree that using popstars to strengthen your campaign is ridiculous but Trump is acting like a popstar himself.
 
I can't stand Trump...but he's right about this. Seeing a presidential candidate use pop stars to strengthen her campaign really rubs me the wrong way too. its everything that's wrong with this culture really...

These are extra, hard needed forces, all for the good cause. These more popular figures support the same story, but do not have all these lies working against them. To use them in order to convince the people who can't make up their mind is a great idea. And it's not that they're just used. These famous people are incredibly worried that Trump might win this. Now that's something to stand up for, isn't it? Campaigning with passion to not have this man as a leader. There's fear out there.

Trump turns people in brainless animals. Check what happened in Reno (watch video):
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...lives-trump-fans-attack-at-nevada-rally-video
 
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There's a difference between a celebrity endorsing a candidate and appearing on stage together with that candidate on a show. One is someone giving his/her two cents, other is trying to bank off fandom that's unrelated to politics.

To use celebrities' influence over matters they're no more qualified than the Average Joe on is a very cheap strategy. Cringeworthy.
 
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