They cheered that, though.
USA Politics
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bearfan
Ancient Mariner
Yeah, because they understood what he was trying to say versus what he actually said
if it were today #buyrosettastone #learngerman #WTFLearnALanguage #HomerSimpson
I think so, but the difference too was that one was a co-operative statement, where as one was an adversarial statement. A statement of inclusiveness is far more likely to be accepted by the audience of the affected language than a statement of opposition.
In other words, while the Americans for whom the good Senator targeted his speech towards will understand the spirit in which it is said, the people whose language has been misunderstood may not be so kind towards forgiving as, say, the Germans were in the 1960s.
In other words, while the Americans for whom the good Senator targeted his speech towards will understand the spirit in which it is said, the people whose language has been misunderstood may not be so kind towards forgiving as, say, the Germans were in the 1960s.
If this was Lindsey Graham stumping in South Carolina for his re-election as senator I'd be all for a blind leading the blind comment. But he's been talking about running (and losing) for the GOP nom. Profiles raised, and comments like this can be used quite easily in anti-US propaganda.
Oh, I agree that he has 0 chance. Hell, so does he.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
While we are at it .. candidates as of now (seems pointless talking about the Dem side at this point. Hillary is it)
Have a shot
Jeb Bush --- Would probably have a better shot with a different last name. I do not think he is a bad candidate, but nowhere near my favorite
Marco Rubio -- seems to give a good speech, but I am not super familiar with him. A negative might be, another Senator with pretty much 0 experience ala Obama. The plus to that is that there is not really much of a record to attach.
Scott Walker ... Pluses .. A Governor, seems to be able to get along well with various factions of the party. No degree might be a minus. As a plus, better speaker than most gave him credit for. He would be my #2 choice at this point.
Rand Paul -- my favorite of the bunch. Negatives for him are that he does not blend well with all factions of the party. His strategy seems interesting, try to get the libertarian wing and hope to bring in younger voters and crossover Dems since their nomination is no contest. That worked for Obama. Similar problem to Rubio with minimal experience. I hope he wins and points the GOP in a more "libertarian-ish" direction
Others
Ben Carson -- not a very good politician, too bad. His story and background is incredible. Even had Cuba Gooding Jr play him in a movie.
Huckabee -- will win some votes as none of the top tier are evangelical. Think this is a "prestige/speaking fee/sell books" candidacy
Carly Fiorina -- no base, again too bad, she has had a good career and poor timing (dot com bust). She may be running for a secretary of X post
Think that is all that has announced so far
Have a shot
Jeb Bush --- Would probably have a better shot with a different last name. I do not think he is a bad candidate, but nowhere near my favorite
Marco Rubio -- seems to give a good speech, but I am not super familiar with him. A negative might be, another Senator with pretty much 0 experience ala Obama. The plus to that is that there is not really much of a record to attach.
Scott Walker ... Pluses .. A Governor, seems to be able to get along well with various factions of the party. No degree might be a minus. As a plus, better speaker than most gave him credit for. He would be my #2 choice at this point.
Rand Paul -- my favorite of the bunch. Negatives for him are that he does not blend well with all factions of the party. His strategy seems interesting, try to get the libertarian wing and hope to bring in younger voters and crossover Dems since their nomination is no contest. That worked for Obama. Similar problem to Rubio with minimal experience. I hope he wins and points the GOP in a more "libertarian-ish" direction
Others
Ben Carson -- not a very good politician, too bad. His story and background is incredible. Even had Cuba Gooding Jr play him in a movie.
Huckabee -- will win some votes as none of the top tier are evangelical. Think this is a "prestige/speaking fee/sell books" candidacy
Carly Fiorina -- no base, again too bad, she has had a good career and poor timing (dot com bust). She may be running for a secretary of X post
Think that is all that has announced so far
Bernie Sanders? 
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
Bernie is awesome, but he'd lose in the general. Which is why bearfan is pulling for him.
Hillary is a very centrist person, though, so I don't think the super left will be very happy.
Hillary is a very centrist person, though, so I don't think the super left will be very happy.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
He is, he's a crazy old socialist, but in the rest of the world, he isn't that crazy.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
Back to what we were just talking about with prisons. Not perfect, but an improvement and what needs to happen in more places
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http://reason.com/blog/2015/05/05/oklahoma-governor-signs-mandatory-minimu
Oklahoma’s Republican Gov. Mary Fallin has signed into law reforms that will allow judges some leeway and discretion from the state’s many mandatory minimum sentences.
The state’s Justice Safety Valve Act, HB 1518, will allow judges to give shorter sentences or divert some offenders to mental health or drug treatment programs for many nonviolent crime convictions if they deem it more helpful than prison.
Oklahoma has a very high incarceration rate, and more than 100 crimes with mandatory minimum sentences attached. The governor took note of the consequences when she signed the bill into law: "Violent criminals will continue to be incarcerated, but the fact is that one in 11 Oklahomans serve time in prison at some point in their lives."
Under the bill, judges would not be able to apply their discretion for violent crimes, sex crimes that would require offender registration, repeat crimes, or for crimes in which the defendant was a "leader of others in a continuing criminal enterprise."
But that’s not the only criminal justice reform recently passed in Oklahoma. At the end of April the governor signed into law a bill that altered the state’s occupational licensing rules to assist former offenders. Alas, HB 2168 doesn’t eliminate occupational licensing in fields like architecture, cosmetology, surveying, athletic training, and several others. What it does do is allow the state to still license people in these fields who had been convicted of crimes, as long as said crimes are not connected to the fields in which they work. That’s still a significant improvement.
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http://reason.com/blog/2015/05/05/oklahoma-governor-signs-mandatory-minimu
Oklahoma’s Republican Gov. Mary Fallin has signed into law reforms that will allow judges some leeway and discretion from the state’s many mandatory minimum sentences.
The state’s Justice Safety Valve Act, HB 1518, will allow judges to give shorter sentences or divert some offenders to mental health or drug treatment programs for many nonviolent crime convictions if they deem it more helpful than prison.
Oklahoma has a very high incarceration rate, and more than 100 crimes with mandatory minimum sentences attached. The governor took note of the consequences when she signed the bill into law: "Violent criminals will continue to be incarcerated, but the fact is that one in 11 Oklahomans serve time in prison at some point in their lives."
Under the bill, judges would not be able to apply their discretion for violent crimes, sex crimes that would require offender registration, repeat crimes, or for crimes in which the defendant was a "leader of others in a continuing criminal enterprise."
But that’s not the only criminal justice reform recently passed in Oklahoma. At the end of April the governor signed into law a bill that altered the state’s occupational licensing rules to assist former offenders. Alas, HB 2168 doesn’t eliminate occupational licensing in fields like architecture, cosmetology, surveying, athletic training, and several others. What it does do is allow the state to still license people in these fields who had been convicted of crimes, as long as said crimes are not connected to the fields in which they work. That’s still a significant improvement.
Good job for the governor on this one. Definitely sentencing minimums are a problem. A problem they smartly disposed of in Texas.
All the other fields listed I get, but why does one need a license for cosmetology?
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
I think it is for hygiene reasons ... (also so some agency can collect a fee). .. Disinfecting stuff and the like. I did a quick google search and it looks like it is a $40 license. Probably nothing too intense.
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
Can you USAians explain this to me?
New York City buses must show 'killing Jews' ad, judge rules
I get that the judge has said that the authority can't prohibit the ad from being shown, but what doe they mean by must show it? Are they actually being ordered to display an advertisement which they do not want to display? I thought the bus operator could decide what to have on their own buses. Is something lost on the way to the international press here?
New York City buses must show 'killing Jews' ad, judge rules
I get that the judge has said that the authority can't prohibit the ad from being shown, but what doe they mean by must show it? Are they actually being ordered to display an advertisement which they do not want to display? I thought the bus operator could decide what to have on their own buses. Is something lost on the way to the international press here?
