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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Forostar, Apr 25, 2011.

  1. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    Yes, I understood it. These guys sound pretty uneducated to my ears, typical of the Pasdaran.
  2. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    2 reasons. 1 - Saddam had refused to allow inspectors, because he said they found everything (which the UN reports pretty much agreed with). 2 - Clinton got his cock sucked by an intern and wanted you to watch the fireworks.

    None of this is true. The weapons that were found in Iraq after had all been buried since the Iran-Iraq War - UN teams inspected Iraq, remember, in 2003 and Hans Blix was quite sure Iraq had no capabilities, though he admitted that they could put facilities together in a few months. Some small stuff were destroyed (decaying canisters that had been uncovered) and this is all documented by UNSCOM. You can't just flush chemical weapons - you have to bury it or blow it up. It's just...there were no WMD of note. There were no facilities. Period. Fact. Final.

    Well, my thoughts are two-fold. 1) if Syria signs the treaty (which Russia is saying is a mandatory aspect to this solution) then if they maintain or use chemical weapons again, we really can intervene and we will have international law on our side. 2) International weapons inspectors do a very good job at what they do. I believe in them. My whole concern from the moment I heard of a gas attack was that the world would do nothing and people would just keep dropping VX or Sarin when they saw fit in Syria. We could have the casualties bloom. I've wanted to intervene since the war started, but I understand why NATO hasn't. Anyway, whatevs, I'm done with this topic.
  3. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    You know, considering what's happening in the Ukraine right now, and considering that no American bomb has been dropped on Syria, I have the uncanny feeling that I was not entirely totally wrong on this.
  4. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

    Huh. I see no compromise, Russia remained hard-line on her opinions about both Syria and Ukraine. The current Ukranian protests are raging because of Russia's hard stance.
  5. bearfan

    bearfan Ancient Mariner

  6. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Just one of thousands of victims, one who would stay til the end, and did stay til his own end.

    He stayed on even as some 1,400 people were evacuated from the city during a UN-supervised operation earlier this year. A Jesuit, Mr Van der Lugt arrived in Syria in 1966 after spending two years in Lebanon studying Arabic. He lived in a Jesuit monastery, where he ministered to the area's remaining Christians and tried to help poor families.

    "I don't see people as Muslims or Christian, I see a human being first and foremost," he told reporters.

    His call for help

    "Christians and Muslims are going through a difficult and painful time and we are faced with many problems. The greatest of these is hunger. People have nothing to eat. There is nothing more painful than watching mothers searching for food for children in the streets...I will not accept that we die of hunger. I do not accept that we drown in a sea of hunger, letting the waves of death drag us under. We love life, we want to live. And we do not want to sink in a sea of pain and suffering."

    earlier this year impressed me (as did many other calls by many other people), and now he is dead as well. Executed with two shots in the head.

    It's going to continue, on and on...
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2014
  7. Dr. Eddies Wingman

    Dr. Eddies Wingman Brighter than thousand_suns

    I just read that Bashar al-Assad received 88.7 percent of the votes in the presidential election. Wonder who the last 1/8 voted for ...
  8. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    [x] Basir al-Assad
    [ ] imminent execution
  9. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    Forostar likes this.
  10. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    That looks complicated.

    Meanwhile: [​IMG]

    UK pilots have attacked in Syria! Done without permission of the parliament. Technically that's not necessary, but it's not desirable. In 2013, UK MPs voted against military action in Syria.

  11. SixesAlltheway

    SixesAlltheway Yacht Rock

  12. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

    You'd expect BBC knows how to recognize RAF plane.
  13. Dr. Eddies Wingman

    Dr. Eddies Wingman Brighter than thousand_suns

    Well, strictly speaking it could be RAF pilots flying USAF planes ;)
  14. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    That's just a stock picture from AP, maybe they didn't have an appropriate picture handy to illustrate the article with.
  15. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

    USN. Strike fighter squadron 87.
    Three pilots and 17 other active personnel of RAF are working with Americans and French. These are three transport pilots.
    You can't just jump into F-18 and fly away on bomb spree. Even Eurofighter/Tornado pilots would need tens of hours of training to pull out such a stunt.

    No picture is better than the wrong picture.
  16. Brigantium

    Brigantium Work Geordie for hire Staff Member

    Pictures are required for all web news stories on news media websites, partly because the layout is set up to require it and partly because research shows stories without pictures are ignored. That's why you see so many generic pictures of police cordon tape and emergency vehicles.
  17. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

    Well I won't argue with that. General population is dumb.
    Layout is a non-argument because if your layout can't handle article without a picture then you should definitely fire your web designer.

    This just shows level of professionalism and commitment to your work.
    I'm not buying into this AP stock pictures. AP has tons of stock pictures, they could've used another one. Hercules would be okay.

    Why am I ranting? I usually see a story, and it's tied to something that I'm involved with (e.g. working with and have been academically educated for the field), and the complete story is nonsense. There are syntactical mistakes, overall incomprehension of the matter by article author, wrong data, wrong media to go with it, etc. The story is targeted towards "general audience". Why should I believe that media outlet when they speak about anything else, if they allow such level of unprofessional behaviour among their ranks, regardless of the topic?
  18. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

  19. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

    I was refering to a page layout that depends on having a picture in a certain place or it will screw up article formatting, and I think Brigantium was speaking of a same thing.
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2015

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