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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Forostar, Apr 25, 2011.

  1. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

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  2. The Flash

    The Flash Dennis Wilcock did 9/11

    Mind your words Foro.
  3. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    To be fair, who knows who the Americans will attack now.
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  4. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

    Raqqa liberated

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  5. Dr. Eddies Wingman

    Dr. Eddies Wingman Brighter than thousand_suns

    This statement from March rings even more true now with the development in Iraq.

    To elaborate: With the US supported government in Iraq using military means to take control over Kirkuk, it is at least clear that there is no guarantee that the Kurds (who also have had massive support from the US) will be able to do whatever they want in Iraq.

    The picture is even more complicated in Syria, where the one thing that seems clear is that everyone is against ISIL. With the last major stronghold of ISIL taken, will the war fizzle out? Or will other actors in the conflict turn on each other with new strength? The different powers of the region have so many different agendas it is hard to keep track.

    • Bashar Al Assad obviously wants to get back to status quo para bellum, with his own government in control of Syria.
    • The various rebel groups are probably too scattered and too divided to continue that part of the war, especially if Russia keeps backing Assad.
    • The Kurds would probably not want to give up any of their territorial gains in Syria - the question is whether the US will back them.
    • Turkey does not want a strong Kurdish entity in Syria. The US is allied with Turkey through NATO and I'll be very surprised if the US tries to force Erdogan to accept something like it.
    • Russia would obviously love to see a deepened divide between Turkey and NATO as it would open the possibility of stronger Russian influence, but their ambitions are not obvious.
    • Iran and Israel have differing interests as well.
    An ideal solution does not exist, I wish the involved parties (great powers included) could sit down and find the least bad one.
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2017

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