Simon Dawson is the new drummer

Doing the whole "he's still in the band, just not playing with us (live, but it's not like we're heading into the studio any time soon, so...)" I feel was a bit of a miscalculation, since honestly it sets expectations.

If they never record another album then Nicko is de facto not in the band, as in he's not involved in any way on the drumming side of things. If they do and Nicko can't perform for some or even all of the tracks, we're still at the same or a similar situation where the band has a permanent drummer who barely plays with them at all and a touring drummer who does all or most of the actual drumwork.

It feels wrong. Had they done a clean break, Nicko coming back in some capacity for a studio track or two for example would instead be a massive pleasant surprise to everyone, but now it feels more like the bare minimum. Band shouldn't have emeritus positions.

Agreed. Anyway, I think that Rod's press release following Nicko's exit from the band was just a polite way of addressing him not being able to drum for Maiden anymore.
 
Agreed. Anyway, I think that Rod's press release following Nicko's exit from the band was just a polite way of addressing him not being able to drum for Maiden anymore.
Exactly, Rod is an old-fashioned Englishman; he didn't say it straightforwardly from the heart, but we all know the sense.
 
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It feels wrong. Had they done a clean break, Nicko coming back in some capacity for a studio track or two for example would instead be a massive pleasant surprise to everyone, but now it feels more like the bare minimum. Bands shouldn't have emeritus positions.
While I like the idea in theory that Nick will be the official drummer and this is the final "official" lineup, it all depends on where they go from here. If they record with Simon, Simon should be the replacement, not just a live fill-in drummer. I'd have no problem if Nick did a couple tracks on the new album and they titled it...I dunno, The Majesty of Gaia (feat. Nicko McBrain).

It's weird that a band that's as seemingly unsentimental as Maiden is is doing this weirdly very sentimental thing with Nicko. I get it's a show of respect for his dedication throughout the years, but Nick himself has said numerous times he wanted the band to replace him if he couldn't pull it off anymore.
 
Doing the whole "he's still in the band, just not playing with us (live, but it's not like we're heading into the studio any time soon, so...)" I feel was a bit of a miscalculation, since honestly it sets expectations.

If they never record another album then Nicko is de facto not in the band, as in he's not involved in any way on the drumming side of things. If they do and Nicko can't perform for some or even all of the tracks, we're still at the same or a similar situation where the band has a permanent drummer who barely plays with them at all and a touring drummer who does all or most of the actual drumwork.

It feels wrong. Had they done a clean break, Nicko coming back in some capacity for a studio track or two for example would instead be a massive pleasant surprise to everyone, but now it feels more like the bare minimum. Bands shouldn't have emeritus positions.
I agree with this, although the jury is still out on a lot of things I guess. We don’t know if RFYL is the last tour, we don’t know if there will be an album, and if there is we don’t know who will play on it. I think the wording is intentionally squishy with that in mind because the band themselves haven’t made those decisions yet about their future.
 
Both of your examples include musicians who perform live with the band though. Unless Nicko records on an album or plays on stage with Maiden in some capacity, neither of which there is any realistic expectation for, he is not the drummer for Iron Maiden.
Well. Glenn Tipton is the guitarist for Judas Priest, and when he's on stage, he essentially just stands there moving his hands, just about inaudible, and there have been at least one occassion where his LAM solo was visibly prerecorded.

I think that's a rather fair comparison.
 
Well. Glenn Tipton is the guitarist for Judas Priest, and when he's on stage, he essentially just stands there moving his hands, just about inaudible, and there have been at least one occassion where his LAM solo was visibly prerecorded.

I think that's a rather fair comparison.
That’s more accurate than the Kiss and BFMV comparisons I think, also wouldn’t be surprised if Maiden has watched how priest handled the Tipton situation and the fan reception as well. Unfortunately for Nicko I think there’s just more Tipton is able to contribute to Priest due to a bunch of different factors including instrument differences, Tipton being a songwriter, etc.
 
Well. Glenn Tipton is the guitarist for Judas Priest, and when he's on stage, he essentially just stands there moving his hands, just about inaudible, and there have been at least one occassion where his LAM solo was visibly prerecorded.

I think that's a rather fair comparison.

That is pretty sad. :(

Why is it so difficult to realise when it's time to call it a day?
 
That is pretty sad. :(

Why is it so difficult to realise when it's time to call it a day?
It's sad, but that's not the point. The point is that for musicians, the stage is their life. It's one of the ways they find to make themselves feel alive and useful. It must be much worse for them to be at home doing nothing.

Some are ok with finding a moment to stop and others just can't make that move in their careers.
 
And the thrill of being on stage another.
The crowd, the tension, it´s immense.
I remember from my days as a vocalist I lived up to a gig and that first minute on stage and then hear the crowds response is incredible!
 

Nicko with a comment about Simon taken from the new IMFC mag. It looks like the interview with him is quite large, hope we can read it. Answering fan questions and collaborating on other topics.

''Simon’s arrival will be a little different. It’s not me, but every drummer has their own stamp, and he’s going to put his own stamp on it. Welcome him: welcome him into the family and don’t compare him to me. Let him express himself in his own way, he’s a good musician. It’s true, he’s been working with Steve for 12 years it’s a natural progression to choose someone he knows as a rhythm section – it’s essential for a bass player. You’re the foundation, whatever kind of music you play, that’s it, and the chemistry has to be right, so it’s the right decision.''
 
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Both of your examples include musicians who perform live with the band though. Unless Nicko records on an album or plays on stage with Maiden in some capacity, neither of which there is any realistic expectation for, he is not the drummer for Iron Maiden.
There is no realistic expectations for? Not even for the special London Stadium show? Why would Bruce underline he's not leaving the band then? They need to record an album (idk, even just a couple of songs) for that though. Like Glenn's role.
Doing the whole "he's still in the band, just not playing with us (live, but it's not like we're heading into the studio any time soon, so...)" I feel was a bit of a miscalculation, since honestly it sets expectations.
If they never record another album then Nicko is de facto not in the band, as in he's not involved in any way on the drumming side of things. If they do and Nicko can't perform for some or even all of the tracks, we're still at the same or a similar situation where the band has a permanent drummer who barely plays with them at all and a touring drummer who does all or most of the actual drumwork.
It feels wrong. Had they done a clean break, Nicko coming back in some capacity for a studio track or two for example would instead be a massive pleasant surprise to everyone, but now it feels more like the bare minimum. Bands shouldn't have emeritus positions.
We don't if they have plans for the future yet, but I think they wish Nicko to record in the studio.
Anyway, I think that Rod's press release following Nicko's exit from the band was just a polite way of addressing him not being able to drum for Maiden anymore.
I think everyone is hoping, including Nicko, that he can play something in the studio.
It's weird that a band that's as seemingly unsentimental as Maiden is is doing this weirdly very sentimental thing with Nicko. I get it's a show of respect for his dedication throughout the years, but Nick himself has said numerous times he wanted the band to replace him if he couldn't pull it off anymore.
It's obvious they want the Reunion lineup to be remembered as the definitive one.
I agree with this, although the jury is still out on a lot of things I guess. We don’t know if RFYL is the last tour, we don’t know if there will be an album, and if there is we don’t know who will play on it. I think the wording is intentionally squishy with that in mind because the band themselves haven’t made those decisions yet about their future.
I highly doubt RFYL will be the last tour with a new live drummer, there should be at least one more album (who will play is another matter). I think it's telling that they have no plans, mentioning that Simon will play this year, and not adding the next year.
 
It's obvious they want the Reunion lineup to be remembered as the definitive one.
I think this is quite important, January 1999 - December 2024, 26 years!

We discussed Tipton, and the other analogy Maiden will want to avoid is AC/DC. Where members are dropping like flies (RIP Malcolm) but they keep it going using the Angus - Brian double act.

If Nicko remains a band ambassador and very involved ...come on Shack and Rod, find a good podcast concept and make Nicko host! If the rest of the reunion lineup keeps going for 3 or 4 years, Nicko cheerleading from the side, the spirit of the reunion lineup can be preserved.
 
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