RUN FOR YOUR LIVES WORLD TOUR (2025/2026)
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Iron Lurker
Ancient Mariner
Could not agree more. And if he sells his tickets he just might regret it. I think this tour is going to be special
Ascendingthethrone
Ancient Mariner
For me, I don’t think I will ever see a Maiden gig as good as the 2018 first night at the O2. Even my uncle, who has been watching from the early days, text me saying ‘that was bloody incredible’. To me, that will be the best tour they have ever done.
Vaenyr
Ancient Mariner
I get the principle, but I'm afraid you are giving audiences too much credit. I'm sure a huge chunk of the more casual fans won't know or notice a difference.
dickinson1978
Ancient Mariner
And was not the same from 1995 to 1998, and now we can see that was another age for iron maiden
Eddie's Uncle
Trooper
Exactly. Tbese days, half the audience at Maiden shows is normal mainstream audience that usually won't even listen to Metal (pretty much like the Wacken crowd). Many of them won't even know the line up change happened, let alone hear a difference.
Tbe other half is the metal crowd, who is known for complaining but going anyway (also much like Wacken)
I am not a line up completist, but I understand them. With any band that you are fan of, there are some factors that define the very essence of the band for you. If those factors are gone, the band has lost its soul for you. Wether or not Nicko is such an essential factor is an individual choice. For me personally, I would have to hear them with Dawson first, before I could decide in that matter.
Maiden's fan base is - no judgement, just observation - generally very uncritical about the band and tends to glorify or at least justify anything the band does, so losing Nicko won't cause the band much trouble.
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Kalata
Out of the Silent Planet
I don't know what to think now, but by ''getting their man'', I think Rod meant Simon.
This.
I still think such a tour would be good in terms of a success, but Maiden to drop all of their classics - I can't see that. They didn't do it in 2010.
I understand you and I feel the same (it won't be the same), but I think (and hope) I'll enjoy the Maiden show as always. They're magic.
No for me, considering the next tours. TFP was special and I enjoyed it, even with Nicko not at his best (noticeably; as he had said before, he doesn't want to hold the band back, which is understandable and something to praise him for). And I don't think all of the old classic bands retired when they were on top. LOTB was quite the tour and the band sounded great and on form in 2019 (2022 was a bit rough after the long break), but there was no reason for them to do it. And with a new album already recorded. I wanted the Reunion lineup to be the final one, but since Maiden are still going, I have no right to complain, right. The band is not ''too old'', they are still on fire live and doing great.
I will miss that too.I wonder if Nicko will still be the one to drop some setlist spoilers.
It's not about the sight, it's about the feel and the person, the most of all.
Agreed here. But this time, perhaps because of the stage of the band's career, it feels very different and difficult to accept.
Well said.
I think you're right.
The hardcore fans, yes. Different, yes. Good, I think so. Worse, I doubt it. Better? No one is Nicko, but he struggled. Let's hear Simon first though.
New age would be if they work with Simon in the studio for 2 more albums. 1995-1998 was a different moment in time, but there are some connections, live the most.
About the first comment - agreed, but Nicko is essential for sure. As for the second comment - I wouldn't say so.
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Iron Lurker
Ancient Mariner
Priest are still killing it. A lot of fans though gripe that it's a tribute band because of no Glen or KK, it's just Rob and Ian from the "classic" line up, though I consider Scott a bonafide member as he's been there a very long time (like Janick)
Imagine if Maiden were down to just Bruce and Steve, no Janick - just two other guitarists (maybe from BL, heh) and Simon. Still Maiden? Iron Lion?
If anyone is really upset about Simon coming on board and wants to sell their tickets to Copenhagen, let me know, I will buy them.
Everyone else, I'm sorry to say this: it wasn't the same with Nicko, either. I love the guy, and salute him for getting through this last tour, but he wasn't the same. I saw this show four times and all four had drumming issues. The show in Montreal was a peak "Adrian is furious constantly" show, and even when Nicko was on, he couldn't use the drum kit fully, not even close.
So yes, Simon won't be the same. Guy has to fill some massive (lack of) shoes, too, so I don't envy him. But Nicko couldn't anymore, and I'm glad he saw the writing on the wall, y'know?
Everyone else, I'm sorry to say this: it wasn't the same with Nicko, either. I love the guy, and salute him for getting through this last tour, but he wasn't the same. I saw this show four times and all four had drumming issues. The show in Montreal was a peak "Adrian is furious constantly" show, and even when Nicko was on, he couldn't use the drum kit fully, not even close.
So yes, Simon won't be the same. Guy has to fill some massive (lack of) shoes, too, so I don't envy him. But Nicko couldn't anymore, and I'm glad he saw the writing on the wall, y'know?
Helmuth Von Moltke
Educated Fool
robert 3019
Prowler
I would just love to see a Maiden concert that no longer uses the 2003 Dance of Death tour stage set up.
TaaviMaiden
Educated Fool
That's an interesting question: does it only depend on the fact that a certain person is on stage?
A band member can have problems, e.g. health or drug problems, so that the band sounds different because of that, not because of a new member. Is it just a matter of a certain person being there to still make it the same band, not really how they sound?
Yeah, for me, it comes down to meeting a certain technical level. And Nick isn't there anymore. He was playing drum solos on one snare. Again, very game to try and do his best, but it is clear that his time has passed for live performances. I would rather see someone come in and play than the band stop. And frankly, if that person comes in and is different...that's fine, too! We haven't gotten the original drumming intent for Hallowed since 1982...
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
I guess at the end of the day it all depends on how each of us sees the band and the emotional connection with the different line-ups. I have been a fan since 1991, so Nicko has always provided the backbone to the Maiden sound with Steve. I have seen the band live 35 times, 33 of them with the Dickinson-Harris-Murray-Smith-Gers-McBrain line-up, and Nicko has always been there with his immense skills providing some very special drumming and his larger-than-life character. A unique musician (I must admit I was not a big fan of his jokes).
Sure enough, his stroke meant that his abilities were affected on the Future Past tour. However, I was still hoping he would be playing drums for Maiden until they called it a day but, alas, I was wrong.
His retirement is understandable, but I am not sure I would have played £100 for a ticket to see them in 2025 had I known what was coming.Bottom line is I was probably naïve (and obviously wrong) to think that Maiden would be different to other old bands who would keep on replacing band members for the sake of carrying on. They are printing money in the final lap of their career, so I cannot see them stopping anytime soon. I hope the final concert is not with the guitar player with the Churchill tattoo from British Lion prancing instead of Janick, or some other random musician smiling instead of Dave though.
Yeah, I mean, ultimately, you get to vote with your wallet if you think Maiden shouldn't be touring anymore. They have the right to do as they see fit, and so do you. The lineup is no less special to me, and it was, at times, painful to see Nicko struggling on the past tour. I am glad he saw sense and decided to call it a day, though.I guess at the end of the day it all depends on how each of us sees the band and the emotional connection with the different line-ups. I have been a fan since 1991, so Nicko has always provided the backbone to the Maiden sound with Steve. I have seen the band live 35 times, 33 of them with the Dickinson-Harris-Murray-Smith-Gers-McBrain line-up, and Nicko has always been there with his immense skills providing some very special drumming and his larger-than-life character. A unique musician (I must admit I was not a big fan of his jokes).
Sure enough, his stroke meant that his abilities were affected on the Future Past tour. However, I was still hoping he would be playing drums for Maiden until they called it a day but, alas, I was wrong.
Bottom line is I was probably naïve (and obviously wrong) to think that Maiden would be different to other old bands who would keep on replacing band members for the sake of carrying on. They are printing money in the final lap of their career, so I cannot see them stopping anytime soon. I hope the final concert is not with the guitar player with the Churchill tattoo from British Lion prancing instead of Janick, or some other random musician smiling instead of Dave though.
Ultimately, I want more Iron Maiden. That could be live Maiden, which is certainly all we might get. That could be another album, which I would love too. A band's age doesn't take away from its right to create, in my opinion. They owe me nothing, and can continue as they see fit. Late lineup changes are obviously a major event, given our investment in the band as is. But I think about other bands that have late changes - some of them have failed, but some have been excellent. I've really enjoyed latter Priest, for example. But that doesn't have to be for everyone.
Maiden is clearly making a lot of money, one of the few true touring bands left in the metal scene. But that's okay? They're allowed to make money. If a guitarist retired, I would think they might go back to a 5 piece. But ultimately, as long as it has Steve and Bruce, and probably Adrian, it'd still feel like Maiden to me.
I’ve said it before but we’re just in such unprecedented territory with these rock bands. So many of them imploded after a decade or so (The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, etc) that there’s not much of a frame of reference for what to do when rock bands are still around but members are getting too old to continue.
I will say though that a lot of the legendary swing bands from the 40s/50s/60s still exist. You can see the Bob Wills Western swing band today, you can see the Mingus big band. These are bands that have been touring for decades without even the member who the band is named after! Something to chew on.
I will say though that a lot of the legendary swing bands from the 40s/50s/60s still exist. You can see the Bob Wills Western swing band today, you can see the Mingus big band. These are bands that have been touring for decades without even the member who the band is named after! Something to chew on.
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
Of course. I am sure they will carry on touring for as long as they can, replacing band members as they see fit.
I guess my attendance to any tours post-2025 would depend on how much I enjoy this year's gig and the cost of the tickets.
