If Team Germany makes like it's 1938-39, there won't be any problems in that group.
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national acrobat
Ancient Mariner
Eddies Wingman said:
Whatever the season, we follow our team
We're Queens Park Rangers, we rule supreme
We'll never be mastered by no, by no Chelsea bastards
So stick the blue flag Up your Arse, up the arse
Stick the blue flag up the arse
From Stamford bridge to Wemberly
We'll stick the blue flag up the arse
That's what we'll be singing.
My old man's a Villain, and yeah he's not too chuffed about this draw. This is the fourth time they've met each other in the FA Cup in six years, I think, and Villa always lose! It's uncanny.And Manchester United will play Aston Villa away. Hmm, tough match, but Villa is a team that United have used to beat the last years. Could've been worse. But I'd rather see United go out to Villa than Notts County or Cheltenham ... not to say Coventry.
P.S.: The Villa fans don't seem too optimistic about this:
http://www.villatalk.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=34530&postdays=0&postorder=asc
Albie
Keeping an open eye on the Weeping Angels.
And if you look at Man U's record at Villa Park in the FA Cup overall (i.e. semi's etc.), they have a very good record there and rarely loose.national acrobat said:
That's what they said about England's group in qualifying (or not qualifying) for this very tournament.Perun said:
Genghis Khan
Ancient Mariner
Forostar said:I think they misinterpretated his words. According to my info he said something like this (being not very serious, but rather funny):
"I'm very happy. We'll meet the world champons, the World Cup runners-up and the best team of the last three years in the qualifications. I wonder who we'll meet in the quarter finals!" Great feel of humour, if you ask me!
I was wondering if it was something like this. It makes more sense.
@ Albie: You're right about revenge. France and Holland need to keep cool heads.
porcnoz
Trooper
Forostar said:
What R. Domenech said... He also said that perhaps this last match (France - Italy) will not be a decisive one. I don't know if I have to laugh or cry.
Albie said:Once you have the mentality of getting revenge for this defeat and that defeat in football, you just end up chasing shadows. When they meet, France should have the mind-set to just win - not revenge.
We've already talked about rivalries between teams. I don't think it will be a revenge of any match, just another match between rivals. And it works for Netherlands, Italy and France.
Genghis Khan
Ancient Mariner
Forostar said:Your newspaper journalist didn't see the matches of Croatia & Poland.
*Cold war has started*
;P
Do you have any sources or memories of thier matches??? The source I used does not show any friendlies or qualification games.
Albie
Keeping an open eye on the Weeping Angels.
Michel Platini is at it again. The man has been extremely busy since his appointment as the top man in UEFA - and good luck to him. He has got some good ideas, I think.
His latest idea is to explore the possibility of incorporating standing in grounds used to host European cup matches. This is done in Germany and to great success, apparently. Now, I do remember as a kid (and right into my 20's at Southend), standing was the norm. The problem it caused was the swaying to and fro of a large volume of people - as you can imagine (those who have stood at a metal concert, will have this sort of experience).
On the whole, it was not too bad, but as a kid getting caught up in this, it's pretty daunting ("Can I go down the front, Dad?" "Go on then". I was back with my father pretty sharpish).
The other issue is the potential for people to be crushed towards the front - and we don't want another Hillsborough.
That said, by the look of the picture given in the source link below, it looks like we have folded seats against a long barrier. This suggests to me that there will be a barrier in front and behind every person (these barriers used to be sparsely placed and did not stop the movement of the crowd - it's like they were placed to allow the odd person to lean against it). If this is what Platini had in mind, then it sounds pretty good to me.
Source.
His latest idea is to explore the possibility of incorporating standing in grounds used to host European cup matches. This is done in Germany and to great success, apparently. Now, I do remember as a kid (and right into my 20's at Southend), standing was the norm. The problem it caused was the swaying to and fro of a large volume of people - as you can imagine (those who have stood at a metal concert, will have this sort of experience).
On the whole, it was not too bad, but as a kid getting caught up in this, it's pretty daunting ("Can I go down the front, Dad?" "Go on then". I was back with my father pretty sharpish).
The other issue is the potential for people to be crushed towards the front - and we don't want another Hillsborough.
That said, by the look of the picture given in the source link below, it looks like we have folded seats against a long barrier. This suggests to me that there will be a barrier in front and behind every person (these barriers used to be sparsely placed and did not stop the movement of the crowd - it's like they were placed to allow the odd person to lean against it). If this is what Platini had in mind, then it sounds pretty good to me.
Source.
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
We're in for an exciting finish in the group stage of the UEFA cup - in group D, Hamburger SV and Basel are through while the last spot could go to SK Brann, Dinamo Zagreb or Rennes.
The situation is like this: Brann have got 4 points but have played their 4 matches. Rennes will play Dinamo at home in the last group match.
- If Rennes win by 3 goals or more, they take 3rd place and go through
- If Dinamo win by 2 goals or more, they will take 3rd
If the result is something in between 3-0 and 0-2, Brann will go to the next round. As a good Norwegian I hope they will.
(If Rosenborg should lose to Schalke 04 in the last group match in the Champions League, I hope that both teams advance in the UEFA cup - it would be great fun if they could meet! There is some rivalry between the two, adding to the excitement.)
PS: According to the UEFA cup regulations, teams from the same nation cannot meet in the round of 32, so if they are going to meet they will have to advance to the round of 16.
The situation is like this: Brann have got 4 points but have played their 4 matches. Rennes will play Dinamo at home in the last group match.
- If Rennes win by 3 goals or more, they take 3rd place and go through
- If Dinamo win by 2 goals or more, they will take 3rd
If the result is something in between 3-0 and 0-2, Brann will go to the next round. As a good Norwegian I hope they will.
(If Rosenborg should lose to Schalke 04 in the last group match in the Champions League, I hope that both teams advance in the UEFA cup - it would be great fun if they could meet! There is some rivalry between the two, adding to the excitement.)
PS: According to the UEFA cup regulations, teams from the same nation cannot meet in the round of 32, so if they are going to meet they will have to advance to the round of 16.
Goddamnit, Forostar, why aren't you in bed?
Genghis Khan
Ancient Mariner
Forostar said:
Matches with each other. Poland vs Croatia. As far as I know, they've had not matches outside of maybe friendlies. Then again getting real football coverage is harder in Canada than in Europe.
EDIT: I've used the same source as Eddie's Wingman.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
I found 4 matches:
Rijeka 28.02.1996. Croatia - Poland 2:1 Friendly
Osijek 22.04.1998. Croatia - Poland 4:1 Friendly
Split 12.02.2003. Croatia - Poland 0:0 Friendly
Wolfsburg 03.06.2006. Poland – Croatia 1:0 Friendly
Via wikipedia I came here: http://www.rsssf.com/tablesk/kroa-intres.html
This site is not 100% updated; it has matches til 16 October 2007.
Croatia vs:
Played W D L GF GA
Poland 4 2 1 1 6 3
Germany 7 1 1 5 8 16
Austria 3 3 0 0 7 2
Rijeka 28.02.1996. Croatia - Poland 2:1 Friendly
Osijek 22.04.1998. Croatia - Poland 4:1 Friendly
Split 12.02.2003. Croatia - Poland 0:0 Friendly
Wolfsburg 03.06.2006. Poland – Croatia 1:0 Friendly
Via wikipedia I came here: http://www.rsssf.com/tablesk/kroa-intres.html
This site is not 100% updated; it has matches til 16 October 2007.
Croatia vs:
Played W D L GF GA
Poland 4 2 1 1 6 3
Germany 7 1 1 5 8 16
Austria 3 3 0 0 7 2
national acrobat
Ancient Mariner
Terraces have to be reintroduced to English football. It's just not natural to sit at a football match, just like a music concert. If anyone says it's not safe for children etc, the answer's simple: have a family seating section, and a standing section, and don't let any under 16s (say) in the terraces. I would be in favour of the style in Germany, where there are fold-up seats, as a compromise. It may not be as fun, but it's safer and better than seating.Albie said:
I remember standing on the terraces on the Holte End at Villa Park (I seem to remember hearing that this was/is the biggest stand behind a goal in Europe), and there was no trouble. Dads stand with the kids at the front, and the lads stand at the back.
Disasters like Hillsborough could never happen now, with the increased security at gates and inside football grounds. Let the right number of people in, and they'll all enjoy it a lot more.
Genghis Khan
Ancient Mariner
Forostar said:
Thank you Forostar. I DO RECALL that loss against Poland now. That was just before Germany 2006 World Cup when the team was making excuses about a virus on the whole roster. The following game versus Spain was their last friendly before the cup kicked off.
thousand_suns
Prowler
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