NO PRAYER FOR THE DYING - Your thoughts…

BludBrutha said:
Is that a skull motif above the letter i? It’s similar to the Goonies logo. Hard to make out what it is unless you have the vinyl.
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We used to think it was the Riggs logo, which is hard to find on the cover (maybe it's not there I can't remember???)
 
BludBrutha said:
Yes, the issue was Steve was shoehorning them into being a thrash sounding band to try to keep up with what was hip at the time. And Bruce trying to sound tough on those raspy vocals just kills it, it sounds horrible.
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No way was Steve chasing a thrash metal sound. There's nothing thrash about NPFTD. Plus he openly stated that he wasn't a fan of the genre.

If anything, they were going after the GnR sound (raw, stripped back hard rock).

BludBrutha said:
That FOTD era b-side where Dickinson calls a horse race and Metallica is coming up in the rear view mirror says it all. They were desperately trying to compete with the big four. Meanwhile you’ve got a guy who went to private schools and studied history at college trying to pretend he’s a badass. It’s just silly. They should have just been themselves.
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FOTD on the other hand was definitely chasing a heavier, more modern sound. BQOBD and the title track were more in the thrash/speed metal wheelhouse. But then you have FHTE which again, wants to be GnR (not to mention some of the filler material like The Apparition).

IDK about Bruce trying to sound tough but he did spend time in the TA. I'll bet he could manage himself in a fisticuffs.
 
Thrash/harder sounding metal/angry sounding vocals/no keyboards or fantasy themes, that’s the point. People always debate genres and sub genres.
 
Bruce's rasp started on SSOASS and is a result of the World Slavery Tour almost destroying his voice. He quite literally needed a decade (and maybe vocal training?) to recover most of his voice, his high range, and healthy vocal technique (which he was severely lacking in the 80s).

Keyboards never left Maiden.

And can we really talk about "harder sounding metal" because of a couple of tracks, when NPFTD and FOTD still featured stuff like Holy Smoke, Hooks In You, From Here To Eternity and Chains Of Misery? :D
 
He was trying to sound like that vocally, it’s not damage. He didn’t even really sing them that harsh on the No Prayer tour. It was a stylistic choice.
 
Yes and no. It was a stylistic choice, because his old singing style wasn't working anymore due to the damage he had sustained. Just listen to the SSOASS tour bootlegs (let alone the SIT ones, where he was constantly sick). The rougher, raspy singing style was easier for him to sustain live than the air raid siren. Those things don't happen in a vacuum.
 
It was released during a time when I personally was into thrash and heavier “new” music in the early 90s.

I bought it as a loyal Maiden fan but, like FotD after it, I didn’t have any favorite tracks and thought Maiden had tried to take a more commercial direction. Hooks in You was catchy, I thought.

It may just be a negative anchoring bias held over from my first impressions, but I really don’t listen to this album or FotD at all anymore when there are so many, IMO, better Maiden albums to listen to instead.

I did like FotD slightly better than NPftD.
 
I loved both No Prayer and FOTD at the time. I think being young youre maybe a bit less critical, or at least discerning...

But I can barely listen to either now and I sort of hate that. FOTD and a Real Live One were everything to me at the time.

I remember rating all the Maiden songs and confidently awarding Hooks In You 10 out of 10. I don't think I've heard it in a decade now.

Still think Live One is great, very happy memories of sneaking away from a School trip to run into Virgin Megastore to buy my first ever record!

Would love to get back to those vibes and appreciate those records again but old me is a moany twat :)
 
When it was released I was getting towards the later years of high school and had just got into Maiden a few months earlier. For the couple of years prior I’d been listening to all sorts to try and find what I really liked, following the crowd so to speak.

All of my mates, and most of my year, seemed to be into stuff like Technotronic, Ice Ice Baby and Tom‘s Diner. But not me. Once this album was released I’d got the keys to view at number 22.
 
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Because Hooks In You is everywhere in the bottom of Maiden song rankings I just HAVE to make a cover of it :D

For reference what I have been doing check this thread out. There is also No Prayer For The Dying
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Thread 'Iron Maiden Covers (Somewhere In Time Upgrade v1.666) of Classic Maiden Songs! | Updated regularly!'

Cheers!

As a big fan of Somewhere In Time I have been doing these Iron Maiden songs as if the would've been done in Somewhere In Time era. Some
songs are faithful to the original ones and on some songs I have done some changes. I don't really practise these songs. I just record them and try to get them done as one take for the video.

The list is starting from the first and the sounds evolve (to better, I hope) with the newer ones.

For guitar players here, there's also the backing track with guitar tabs after my take!

I'm open for suggestions, if you like what you...
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Ad_Astra said:
Because Hooks In You is everywhere in the bottom of Maiden song rankings I just HAVE to make a cover of it :D

For reference what I have been doing check this thread out. There is also No Prayer For The Dying
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Thread 'Iron Maiden Covers (Somewhere In Time Upgrade v1.666) of Classic Maiden Songs! | Updated regularly!'

Cheers!

As a big fan of Somewhere In Time I have been doing these Iron Maiden songs as if the would've been done in Somewhere In Time era. Some
songs are faithful to the original ones and on some songs I have done some changes. I don't really practise these songs. I just record them and try to get them done as one take for the video.

The list is starting from the first and the sounds evolve (to better, I hope) with the newer ones.

For guitar players here, there's also the backing track with guitar tabs after my take!

I'm open for suggestions, if you like what you...
  • Love
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The lead guitar in the "Hooks in you... I've got those hooks in you" bridge is probably going to sound amazing with the Somewhere in Time sound.
 
The Sentient said:
When it was released I was getting towards the later years of high school and had just got into Maiden a few months earlier. For the couple of years prior I’d been listening to all sorts to try and find what I really liked, following the crowd so go speak.

All of my mates, and most of my year, seemed to be into stuff like Technotronic, Ice Ice Baby and Tom‘s Diner. But not me. One this album was released I’d got the keys to view at number 22.
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Sounds like you discovered Maiden just a few years after I did. For me, it was SIT, and Wasted Years, that caught my attention around age 14 and then I backtracked the catalog and never looked back save for a hiatus in the 90s where I only listened to SSoaSS and earlier, but had mostly diverted to other bands and types of music.
 
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