Back in '90, I went to go see Faith No More at Joe's Garage in Fort Worth. This was before the Epic video hit. Jim Martin had on his Cliff RIP shirt, so I complemented him on it. Jim was cool and talked to me and my friends about Cliff. At that time, I didn't know that they were best friends since their school years. Jim explained that Dave and Cliff got along great, and that James and Lars saw that as a threat. Dave and Cliff would ride to work together, and generally hang out a lot. When Dave was booted, the decision was made without the input of Cliff. Cliff was still asleep when Dave was put on the bus. Cliff was so pissed that James and Lars had to convince him to stay in the band. So, needless to say, the guys were close friends who hit it off. Jim also said that Cliff told him to reform Trauma the last night before his final tour, and that he was only going on one last tour with Metallica before he quit because he really loved Europe. Cliff had attempted to band together with James and Kirk to kick out Lars, who he couldn't stand, but James balked when he found out that Lars was the sole owner of the name. Cliff felt like he wasn't getting proper credit in the royalties for how much music he had written, and thought that touring with Ozzy was total shit. Cliff felt like they should use their status to support more underground bands, and book their own tours. All this is info out of Jim's mouth that night, along with a lot of other stuff. The guy was still genuinely hurt by Cliff's death, and I felt bad for him.