Live After Death anniversary this year - do you expect anything interesting?

Kalata said:
Bruce:

''The whole thing should have been from Hammersmith. The performances there were better than the ones in Los Angeles. But the lighting engineer, Dave Lights, was at war with the video guys and consequently the whole thing was too dark. So we had great audio footage, but a lot of the concert footage was unusable''.

Again too dark. But it seems they have the full live album. Hammersmith would probably the best hope for the future.
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I think Bruce has Hammersmith 82 and 84 mixed. His memory bout these things isnt great
 
Perun said:
back when they still gave a shit.
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I'm not sure how not milking fans for meaningless anniversaries constitutes not "giving a shit", if anything my wallet says thanks for their concern.

Why are people so fixated on the 40th anniversary, we never had anything for real numbers like the 10th. 20th or 25th, so why the 40th? The 50th would be the next significant number.
 
Possibly because they have put out special 40th versions already. You had the debut special vinyl, the Number of the Beast/BOH package, the Piece of Mind book, the Powerslave zoetrope. It’s probably the most Maiden has done to acknowledge anniversaries for their classic albums. In the past I can only think of when they celebrated 25 years of TNOTB.
 
srfc said:
Why are people so fixated on the 40th anniversary, we never had anything for real numbers like the 10th. 20th or 25th, so why the 40th? The 50th would be the next significant number.
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All those numbers (10, 20, 25, 40, 50…) are real numbers. In fact, they are natural numbers. :D

If I were Maiden, I would have re-released LPs on the 33 1/3 anniversary of each album release, and the singles 45 years after their release date. Each at a cost of £666, obviously.
 
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Perun said:
Not expecting anything other than merch aimed at collectors. If there were any good vault material they wanted to release, it would have been on the 2008 DVD, back when they still gave a shit.

Biggest upset I could imagine is making the Losfer Words, Sanctuary and Murders in the Rue Morgue b-sides available on streaming platforms.
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I still maintain that the Early Days DVD is the best product they have put out. You could tell that they really cared about it. The LAD DVD was good as well.
 
srfc said:
I'm not sure how not milking fans for meaningless anniversaries constitutes not "giving a shit", if anything my wallet says thanks for their concern.

Why are people so fixated on the 40th anniversary, we never had anything for real numbers like the 10th. 20th or 25th, so why the 40th? The 50th would be the next significant number.
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From that perspective you're right, I just meant that I don't think they would ever put the amount of effort into a product as they did with the Early Days through Maiden England DVDs anymore.

I still can't get over how shoddy the 2015 CD boxes were.
 
Spaldy said:
It was shot in 4:3 so changing it to 16:9 would involve either stretching or cropping the frame. No thanks. I'd rather have the full image.
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I'm not sure what goes into changing aspect ratios but digital restoration of old film has gotten so good recently that I wonder if this is actually possible without losing quality. At the very least, 4k restorations of the old concert videos would be amazing. They could probably come up with something really impressive for that original Beast Over Hammersmith video.

Also, I agree that The Early Days is the best Maiden video they ever put out, but even that leaves a lot to be desired. I wish they had done complete concerts for all three shows on the first disc, does that video footage even exist? I know Hammersmith is all out there since there are bootlegs, but I don't think I've seen bootlegs of other Live At the Rainbow songs on video or Hallowed Be Thy Name from the Dortmund show.
 
Mosh said:
Also, I agree that The Early Days is the best Maiden video they ever put out, but even that leaves a lot to be desired. I wish they had done complete concerts for all three shows on the first disc, does that video footage even exist?
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Nope. I believe that all the available footage is there and on 12 Wasted Years.
 
Perun said:
From that perspective you're right, I just meant that I don't think they would ever put the amount of effort into a product as they did with the Early Days through Maiden England DVDs anymore.

I still can't get over how shoddy the 2015 CD boxes were.
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I think there is a massive divide in the world of physical media. There are still artists who care about the quality of what they put out and those who don’t really care.

I like to buy CD box sets and vinyl (sometimes the occasional CD). I have 4 of the Jethro Tull ‘book-sets’ and they are incredible. I’m not the world’s biggest Tull fan but I love these sets because of the quality of them. Ian Anderson clearly cares about the finished product.

I still hold out hope they Maiden will one day do something similar and get back to releasing good quality physical media. However I think that ship has sailed. Although I would like to be proved wrong.
 
Mosh said:
I'm not sure what goes into changing aspect ratios but digital restoration of old film has gotten so good recently that I wonder if this is actually possible without losing quality. At the very least, 4k restorations of the old concert videos would be amazing. They could probably come up with something really impressive for that original Beast Over Hammersmith video.
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LAD was shot on 35mm film stock and then transferred to video tape for editing (which was common practice in those days for tv and vhs). In order to restore LAD to 4K, they would need to go back to the original 35mm negatives and have them rescanned and then re-edit the footage all over again. A very costly endeavour that I doubt we'll ever see happen.

The other method would be to use an AI to artificially upscale the video masters. This would likely result in a fake looking image. There's a YouTube version of LAD that's been done with this method, adding HDR, and the results aren't good imo.

The aspect ratio is a different kettle of fish. You can't make it wide-screen without either cropping the top and bottom half of the image or stretching it out (making the band look like they've gained 30lbs).

Perhaps in 10 years when AI has gotten good enough there'll be some way to widen the image artificially but you'd basically be looking at fake footage. Something I doubt Steve would approve of.
 
I would like a box set with more live alternatives, especially from Hammersmith. Why not also include a Blu-ray version as well. Realisticly, I guess a vinyl picture will come at the best
 
onurb said:
But well probably get the same album again with that zoetrope bullshit printed in the vinyl.
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Kinda coincidence that The X Factor vinyl came out a few weeks ago again, it was sold out and not availabe for a long time yet. So I went for that one. Was the better purchase than the Zoetrope PS I suppose...
 
Kalata said:
Bruce:

''The whole thing should have been from Hammersmith. The performances there were better than the ones in Los Angeles. But the lighting engineer, Dave Lights, was at war with the video guys and consequently the whole thing was too dark. So we had great audio footage, but a lot of the concert footage was unusable''.

Again too dark. But it seems they have the full live album. Hammersmith would probably the best hope for the future.
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I just listened to the Hammersmith songs the other day, and performance-wise--especially in regards to little extra vocal flourishes Bruce put on them--it was head and shoulders better than he was in Long Beach. I hadn't heard those versions in awhile, and I'm just thinking, "okay, that's the best version of Wrathchild they've recorded, best version of 22, and so on. I'd LOVE a full Hammersmith release.

As for what I'm expecting from the anniversary...nothing of interest to me, most likely. I don't buy shirts anymore, patches, etc., and that seems to be the extent of what they do, apart from the Piece of Mind graphic novel (which they didn't do again with the Powerslave anniversary).

Most of what I collect nowadays is what I wish they'd have put out when I was single and had more disposable income: statues and figures. I have three of the Knucklebonz statues, which are of exceptional quality (pricey, but not Sideshow pricey), and would've loved for them to have been given the job of doing an anniversary Live After Death statue.
 
Diplomat said:
I would love to have remastered bluray 16:9 picture, not 4:3.
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It wasn’t filmed in 16:9. Why would you want them to screw up the picture by zooming in and chopping of the top and bottom so it fits 16:9? They already did that on all the music videos on the official YT channel, so people are seeing LESS of the original videos.
 
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