Libya in new hands

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You can't run an oppressive military junta as a Colonel. Everyone knows generals ran those things.

PS, Idi Amin's full titles were awesome:

"His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular"
 
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LooseCannon said:
"His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular"
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I think we have a winner.
 
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That's in addition to his claim to being the uncrowned King of Scotland.
 
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Still, my favourite African nutcase is this guy:

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Who's that? I'm not too familiar with Africa
 
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Check the image URL, and you might get a hint ;)
 
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He does sound crazy. I guess the picture was a good indication of that.

On the subject of Libya, this whole thing is reminding me of Animal Farm for some reason. Maybe it is because I just read the book.
 
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Anybody else notice that Khadaffi looks like he is wearing a rubber mask of himself? The shitty facial hair, wrinkles and over rubbery appearance?
 
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Stallion Duck said:
On the subject of Libya, this whole thing is reminding me of Animal Farm for some reason. Maybe it is because I just read the book.
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I would think that is because you just read the book. It is an analogy of a revolution that has a more similar counterpart in the Egyptian one rather than what is happening in Libya right now. Orwell is essentially describing a peaceful - more or less - revolution that has no major difficulty in overthrowing the dictator, and is more focussed on where it goes wrong. The situation in Libya is a civil war which did not even come to the point of toppling the dictator, and hence has not yet gone wrong in that particular sense.
 
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Looks like NATO takes over command of Libya operation!

A Turkish Minister said this, still no confirmation from NATO, but big chance it will be like this.
 
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I don't know which side I would take. I'm surprised to see Obama on the arming rebels side though.

Maybe arming the rebels would make progress. It wouldn't hurt to try. And if they are there to protect the people,wouldn't arming them be a way to protect them?
 
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Stallion Duck said:
I don't know which side I would take. I'm surprised to see Obama on the arming rebels side though.

Maybe arming the rebels would make progress. It wouldn't hurt to try. And if they are there to protect the people,wouldn't arming them be a way to protect them?
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We already technically "armed the people" by providing airstrikes on Gaddafi's troops. I'm not surprised its so easy for the politicians to take the next steps. I hope we show some restraint but alas.
This whole "the US isn't leading anymore" stuff is almost utter rubbish. The US didn't lead on asking for the no-fly zone, they only led on military deployment and organisation, and their military deployment is only scaling back a bit and they are simply handing operational control to NATO. But the US will still essentially have the same involvement they had from the start. Its all big deal made out of nothing - at least nothing in a political sense. Ironically, its made the US look like they were pushing for intervention more than they actually were or maybe there is some truth to it all....
The way I have seen it so far, is that Europe (mainly the UK and France) pushed for intervention with the US feeling indecisive (as they are worried about their image both at home and internationally). The no-fly zone was never going to really be successful without the support of the US military and so their involvement was always going to be fairly substantial. The US simply wanted other countries to be seen as leading the way on this issue and the US seen as following along and being a helpful member of the international community. Unfortunately, now the media seem to be writing articles which make it seem like it was all a US-led effort, not just militarily, but politically.
Perhaps the US was the main force behind this, it will make an interesting read in the history books of the future.
 
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I could easily write a doctoral thesis on this. Today if it was in political science, in 10 years if it was for history.
 
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Stallion Duck said:
I don't know which side I would take. I'm surprised to see Obama on the arming rebels side though.

Maybe arming the rebels would make progress. It wouldn't hurt to try. And if they are there to protect the people,wouldn't arming them be a way to protect them?
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Didn't we arm the people in Afghanistan in the 80's, which we have been fighting against? 
 
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Osama Bin Laden was trained by the CIA. The difference, of course, was that he hated the West back then.
 
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LooseCannon said:
I could easily write a doctoral thesis on this. Today if it was in political science, in 10 years if it was for history.
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I'd rather read the history and (hopefully) a little more truth on the matter, there are some things we will probably never know such as whether the CIA have had any invovlement in instigating this mass-Middle East/North Africa uprising. Sometimes though, time reveals these things and with the rise of stuff like WikiLeaks and the obsession with the media of uncovering the next big secret, perhaps society is changing its view on secrecy.
 
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