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Jer said:
I think you and Diesel already have the market cornered on meaningless words.
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It’s so easy to say this when you completely overlook the actual points people have made.

Again, communication works in the following fashion:

1. Message is formulated.
2. It is deliver through a channel.
3. It is picked up by the receiver.
4. The receiver decodes the message, based on the actual words and the context in which is what produced.
5. The receiver gives feedback on the message
6. A back-and-forth may arise which usually unravels the overall meaning again.

This is how communication works. This is as objective as we can get. Here’s what happened:

1. You read Saap’s post and formulated a message in response to it.
2. You posted your half-joking comment.
3. Ariana read it.
4. Ariana did not see men mentioned at all, and as a woman, found a male talking about judging a woman’s sex life to be sexist.
5. Ariana posted her response.

What should have happened:

6. You stress that that was not your intention and that it applies with men too.
7. It all ends there.

Here’s what did happen:

6. You immediately jump to the conclusion that Ariana hates you and is looking for ways to trip you up. She found an innocent post of yours, in your mind, and attacked your character. You respond that the only reason she found sexism is because she went looking for it. Never mind that you have just made numerous assumptions about her character that were never stated by her. Do you seriously not see the double standard here?
7. Other people posted and said that your post appeared sexist due to the way it was written, and you overlooked all arguments to rant about how people have put you into a “mean” category simply cuz you’re you. And said you proved everyone objectively wrong.

I’ve read your post numerous times and I still don’t see what proof you’ve made because you completely ignore the nuances of communication. All I’ve outlined above has been discussed for years. Whether it’s five stages or eight, it’s the same concept. Communication is more than just the basic intent of your message and there’s more nuance than you’re willing to admit. But it’s literally Communication 101. And I’m sorry, but you’re objectively blind if you don’t see that.
 
Diesel 11 said:
It’s so easy to say this when you completely overlook the actual points people have made.

Again, communication works in the following fashion:

1. Message is formulated.
2. It is deliver through a channel.
3. It is picked up by the receiver.
4. The receiver decodes the message, based on the actual words and the context in which is what produced.
5. The receiver gives feedback on the message
6. A back-and-forth may arise which usually unravels the overall meaning again.

This is how communication works. This is as objective as we can get. Here’s what happened:

1. You read Saap’s post and formulated a message in response to it.
2. You posted your half-joking comment.
3. Ariana read it.
4. Ariana did not see men mentioned at all, and as a woman, found a male talking about judging a woman’s sex life to be sexist.
5. Ariana posted her response.

What should have happened:

6. You stress that that was not your intention and that it applies with men too.
7. It all ends there.

Here’s what did happen:

6. You immediately jump to the conclusion that Ariana hates you and is looking for ways to trip you up. She found an innocent post of yours, in your mind, and attacked your character. You respond that the only reason she found sexism is because she went looking for it. Never mind that you have just made numerous assumptions about her character that were never stated by her. Do you seriously not see the double standard here?
7. Other people posted and said that your post appeared sexist due to the way it was written, and you overlooked all arguments to rant about how people have put you into a “mean” category simply cuz you’re you. And said you proved everyone objectively wrong.

I’ve read your post numerous times and I still don’t see what proof you’ve made because you completely ignore the nuances of communication. All I’ve outlined above has been discussed for years. Whether it’s five stages or eight, it’s the same concept. Communication is more than just the basic intent of your message and there’s more nuance than you’re willing to admit. But it’s literally Communication 101. And I’m sorry, but you’re objectively blind if you don’t see that.
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No, no, no, no, you were supposed to hate me! Or alternatively criticise the bias of the Political Compass.

You were the chosen one!
 
Forostar said:
In that compass I read a lot of USA in some of the viler statements. Lots of discriminating, even sort of fascist views.
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Look at people that scored in the left bottom quadrant. We had some very fierce political discussions and disagreements between those people. We have them constantly actually, just not on everyday basis. And judging by the score, the board should be a political echo chamber.

The funny thing is, that for people who scored on the right side, it is probably an echo chamber. Because the complete system is skewed.
 
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Diesel 11 said:
It’s so easy to say this when you completely overlook the actual points people have made.
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FFS, you completely ignored almost the entire content of my earlier response to you, and then you bust out this ironic gem?

Then you go into the details of communication, which I had already covered in the post you summarily ignored, and offer up a conclusion that implicates me while conveniently ignoring the responsibility of the listener?

You also claimed that you’d offered a credible explanation for your own behavior in an earlier post, when all that post did was deny my own conclusion without offering any alternative explanation at all, unless “calling out what needs calling out” is what you’re trying to call an explanation. And you continue to pepper your messages with laughably empty potshots, which just supports my original assessment of your motives. What a joke.

I’m generally a rabidly anti-censorship sort of person, but if people are going to consistently communicate in bad faith, not even attempting to have a real conversation or to have any intellectual integrity in what they’re saying, then their comments literally serve no purpose. If someone’s only goal in posting in my direction is to posture and taunt while ignoring all the substance of what I’m saying, then I may as well block them.

Congratulations, Tweedledee and Tweedledum, I’m officially hitting the ignore button on both of you.
 
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Perun said:
My stepdaughter about why German doesn't have a word for "cringe": "You guys don't cringe because you're too afraid to do something wrong." *pause* "Because of last time, you know?"
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I did not know cringe's relation to rather not doing something wrong. Might be my lack of English.

Edit: aha, I just saw there is also "cultural cringe"!
I was not aware of that phrase.
 
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*changes Judas Priest's Jugulator tracklist*

1."Jugulator"
2."Blood Stained"
3."Dead Meat"
4."Death Row"
5."Decapitate"
6."Burn in Hell"
7."Brain Dead"
8."Agitators"
9."Bullet Train"
10."Cathedral Spires"
 
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